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[–] aninjury2all@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago

Oh hey I remember these guys from Trashfuture

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

If Ai stands for "Absent indian" what does agi stand for?

edit: my brain didn't process the title properly.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Let’s drop the “indian” part of this and come up with something else, please.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I personally didn't think it was bad because india is one of the countries commonly exploited for this kind of thing, but I can see why you would want to avoid using it.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago

Hey, as long as we can learn from this, then we are doing our best to keep this bar nazi-free.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

+1! and there's so many better options anyway!

right off the top of my head (in addition to inside/instead): incognito, insecurely

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Instead sounds good, but "Absent Inside" makes it sound like it is an actual ai.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"A Guy Instead", it's in the title?

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

fuck im blind.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Alternatively, "A Guy (from) India".

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A Group of Indians

That's called a call center

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

for the same reasons as this, not really a thing I'd post, even in jest

the existence of these callcenters (often in india, but hardly only there - much of africa is beset by the same problem) is an outright fucking feature of the years-long capitalist market optimisation hell-loop. and as annoying as their "output" (for lack of a better word) may be in one's daily life, at the end of the day it's still a bunch of people at the bottom rung getting fucked

(e: I mention "callcenters" but "AI support centers"/"data review"/"remote shoppers"/.... - it's all the same fucking exploitation-offshoring dynamic)

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, exactly. The same capitalist/colonialist/imperialist forces that exploit the global south are the same that want AI to automate everyone into abject poverty. We can do better and show class solidarity by not perpetuating these racist stereotypes.

[–] natkr@awful.systems 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't want to speak for the people affected, but I always read it (or as I've heard it called here, "the chinese backend") as a criticism of the capitalism and colonialism that lead to that kind of exploitation, not a criticism of the people being exploited.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 2 points 8 hours ago

Sure, but we should be calling these things out directly, rather than indirectly in a way that fuels racism.