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[โ€“] Telorand@reddthat.com 52 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fucking hell, how many times is this dumb idea going to rear its ugly head?

[โ€“] devfuuu@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

it will keep coming up until it comes to be. that is the whole point. the powers interested in this will not tire out unlike all of us who will eventually not pay attention or organize in time.

[โ€“] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There should be increasing fines for each time this thing is brought and rejected. It's costing public money having to defend this crap every damn time. Say a fine starting after anything is brought (and rejected) more than 5 times. We're very much well over that limit. They've been trying for over 20 years now.

[โ€“] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

There should be increasing fines for each time this thing is brought and rejected.

well, so far it hasn't been officially rejected, as there wasn't a formal vote. it kept being postponed because the parties introducing it weren't sure about getting a majority approval.

[โ€“] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 6 days ago

I hate that you're probably right.

[โ€“] taladar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And then when it goes catastrophically wrong as everyone has predicted for decades of course "nobody could have seen that coming" will be the next big lie those very same politicians who pushed it through will tell everyone.

[โ€“] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Back doors are accessible to all. None should exist.

[โ€“] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 days ago

The fact that Switzerland is also looking to amend its laws is ridiculous.

[โ€“] azha@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago

Our digital security is at risk even in Europe.

[โ€“] experiencetheworld@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don't think if that comes through that they will have it easier to bust criminal activity. If someone wants to hide in the internat they can. The internet isn't a country where you can setup rules. Of course can they get access to messaging apps like Whatsapp or Signal but for communities that aren't a company won't that work out. They can't just make end-to-end encryption ilegal. If they stop Signal or Whatsapp feom end-to-end encrypting many people will go to services that do that and can't be controlled by governments.

[โ€“] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago

Exactly. When it's criminal to have privacy, only criminals will have privacy. And privacy is security.

I'm so sick technological illiterate law makers.

[โ€“] fraksken@infosec.pub 2 points 5 days ago

Criminals will easily be able to encrypt their stuff using readily available mechanisms. Common people will get surveillance imposed on them. These legislators should learn from gun control.

Normal law abiding citizens don't get guns because it's illigal, criminals still walk around with AK47's and grenade launchers in brussels.

Just to draw a parallel...

[โ€“] fxdave@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

The world is in chaos

[โ€“] henfredemars@infosec.pub 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

ProtectEU?

Weaken and soften EU!

[โ€“] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

Well most of these money/power grabbers usually hide under names referencing exactly the opposite of what they intend to do. See citizens united.