Has any society in human history been able to afford eating meat regularly? My great great great great grandfather’s journals talk about a lot of stew and veggies and he was wealthy enough that he founded a small city. We never ate that much meat.
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Typically we don't need to eat meat when we are wealthy; we eat unsustainable meat when there is a famine because we must.
It’s more that they aren’t killing a cow that produces milk
Cows don't just produce milk like chickens lay eggs.
I know. If your cow can birth calves and produce milk you aren’t going to kill it just yet.
Subsidies and very, very cruel industrialization (torturous conditions).
If laws were just and corporate socialism was just, it wouldn't be possible for most people.
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The most important part: what went into the calculation? There are plenty of things besides food that impact environmental sustainability, is diet alone sufficient to achieve it? Or did they just throw the rest out?
Can we please get moving on the lab grown meats already. This shit is getting depressing.
We really don't need lab grown stuff when the meat alternatives on the market now are already so good
If you haven't tried any yet, I highly recommend Impossible meat, it's virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. Quorn is another great option.
And on a budget, Seitan is also fantastic.
Honestly I think the meat alternatives are pretty terrible compromises to the real thing. We should be cooking to enhance the veggies flavor instead of trying to force them to be meat.
Honestly, just buy rice and beans and veggies. That plastic wraped stuff is dumb.
I would not have been able to convert my family to become vegetarians without the help of plant meats, as it allows them to continue cooking all their favorite recipes from childhood onward that are meat based, which is incredibly important to them.
I think you underestimate how useful of a tool plant meats are in converting people. In my experience it is far easier for people to switch to a plant meat than it is to convince them to abandon a significant portion of the diet they grew up with, especially if their recipes are deep rooted and cultural.
It's something I'm extremely grateful to have in my tool belt. And in the case of Quorn, it's not even a highly processed thing, it's just a high protein, low carb fungus that they found naturally grew into a meaty texture, and easily absorbs vegan stocks to taste like anything.
Also @Syd@lemm.ee and @Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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What is wrong with beans?? You're never going to get lab meat as good as beans in your lifetime. It's a designer product for large children who are terrified of changing their diet.
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What about people that don't eat pork?
I guess you can have 255 grams of poultry
Or veggies. Veggies are always nice.
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It's funny to think that you need communism for this kind of figure to mean anything.