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[–] MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

Call me old but I simply don't buy home appliances with internet connection or companion app.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It was foreseeable that they will drop support after a few years to “force” users to buy new thermostats. No surprise here.

If one needs something reliable that is not depending on any cloud crap from Google or other advertising companies, openHAB is the most free and open solution (but also likely takes the most effort to initially integrate).

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

openHAB is german 🇩🇪 too!

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, no company is going to support a product indefinitely. The first nests are 11 years old.

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't need to offer support, (technical) access to the device is enough. Those devices could be used locally without issues.

They do neither.

It's not surprising to me but there's is a way beyond infinite support.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The devices can still be controlled locally, just run homeassistant (which everyone should be doing).

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh I was under the impression that nest is dependent on their API services - happy to be wrong!that said no one should use home assistant after their proxy debacle and their unwillingness to follow up on their promise to open source their remote service.

I don't understand why everyone is recommending them, their track record on backtracking is en pair with an enterprise...

Edit: I don't want to pull anyone away from home assistant, I phrased that too aggressive. I just wonder how so many people flock to it with this track record and at the same time are concerned about big tech companies. TE vendor lockin appears too me and the control lies completely in one companies hand. Even with open source core that's just too much if a risk for me personally.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

The devices can still be used locally without issues. They're not bricking the devices; you just can't use their cloud service with them.

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While these are 14 year old models, it'd be really cool if companies at least got in the habit of designation at least one device as being LTS

That way consumers can choose if they want latest and greatest (but with a limited lifespan) or an LTS model that will last forever (but maybe has less fancy features and is much simpler, but functional)

If Google put out a Nest LTS that was lower MSRP, had very little features, and was very minimalist, but had a 30 year LTS gaurentee, I'd buy it.