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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Trying to claw back the "glory days" at the cost of everything else I see. I hate to say it but China is going to dominate in the new order Trump created.

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One thing to take into consideration is that EVs are much heavier than their ICE counterparts which means they contribute to more road damage.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Then tax by weight and not engine type. Freight trucks already don't pay their fair share in infrastructure costs.

Edit: EVs are about 18-24% heavier than their Ice equivalent. Still doesn't add up to the proposed costs.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Road wear is a 4th power formula to weight. So for a car that weighs 1.25 times the average, it would do 2.44 times the damage. These formulas may be fair. They would be vastly different if you included the damage from burning fuel in populated areas, though.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fair point, but it's still a flat tax regardless of miles driven. Current Gen EVs see a lot less miles/yr in the US vs combustion.

So at 1.25x weight with that mileage you should only expect 1.5x the cost.

I'm not a huge fan of any cars but this is a pretty regressive scheme.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Oh, I agree. "Let's factor in this one externality on the more responsible choice while we ignore all the externalities on the alternatives."

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago

Lived in Ohio, had that BS. My PHEV (which still uses gas for long trips) was taxed additional $200 a year, same as an EV.

My calculations came out to something similar - at ~15,000 mi driven a year and optimal battery use, I paid about the same as a car/truck with 20-25MPG. That is the MPG my first car, a 90s sedan, got.

Real incentives for efficiency and progress. /s