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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 230 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No thanks. I’m perfectly capable of coming up with incorrect answers on my own.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

you're right tho

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That's not fair! I care! A lot!

Just had to buy a new laptop for new place of employment. It took real time, effort, and care, but I've finally found a recent laptop matching my hardware requirements and sense of aesthetics at a reasonable price, without that hideous copilot button :)

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 6 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

Which laptop did you buy if you don't mind sharing?

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

quite annoyed that the Snapdragon laptops are bootlocked cos they'd make great Linux boxes

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[–] Kewlio251@midwest.social 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My problem is that it's not that fucking useful. I got the Pixel 9 specifically because of its advertised AI chip for the assistant and I swear it's just gotten worse since the Pixel 7. I used to be able to ask Google anything through the assistant, and now 90% of my questions are answered with "can't find the information."

They also advertised (or at least heavily alluded to) the use of the AI chip when you are in low network areas but it works just as good outside of 4g+ coverage as it ever did without the stupid chip.

Whats the point of adding AI branded nonsense if there's no practical use for it. And that doesn't even start to cover the issues with AI's reliability as a source of information. Garbage in = garbage out.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 3 points 23 hours ago

When Gemini can find the information, they added flowery "social" bullshit before, in the middle and after the information I asked for wasting my time

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[–] detun3d@lemm.ee 6 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Gen AI should be private, secure, local and easier to train by it's users to fit their own needs. Closest thing to this at the moment seems to be Kobold.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 158 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even non tech people I talk to know AI is bad because the companies are pushing it so hard. They intuit that if the product was good, they wouldn't be giving it away, much less begging you to use it.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

customers dont want AI, but only thhe corporation heads seem obssed with it.

[–] lev@slrpnk.net 81 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're right - and even if the user is not conscious of this observation, many are subconsciously behaving in accordance with it. Having AI shoved into everything is offputting.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 117 points 1 day ago (12 children)

One of the mistakes they made with AI was introducing it before it was ready (I’m making a generous assumption by suggesting that “ready” is even possible). It will be extremely difficult for any AI product to shake the reputation that AI is half-baked and makes absurd, nonsensical mistakes.

This is a great example of capitalism working against itself. Investors want a return on their investment now, and advertisers/salespeople made unrealistic claims. AI simply isn’t ready for prime time. Now they’ll be fighting a bad reputation for years. Because of the situation tech companies created for themselves, getting users to trust AI will be an uphill battle.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Apple Intelligence and the first versions of Gemini are the perfect examples of this.

iOS still doesn’t do what was sold in the ads, almost a full year later.

Edit: also things like email summary don’t work, the email categories are awful, notification summaries are straight up unhinged, and I don’t think anyone asked for image playground.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Insert 'Full Self Driving' Here.

Also, outlook's auto alt text function told me that a conveyor belt was a picture of someone's screen today.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago

Calling it “Full Self Driving” is such blatant false advertising.

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 48 points 1 day ago

capitalism working against itself

More like: capitalism reaching its own logical conclusion

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The battle is easy. Buy out and collude with the competition so the customer has no choice but to purchase a AI device.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago

Oh we care alright. We care about keeping it OUT of our FUCKING LIVES.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Don’t care AND are not stupid.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (5 children)

WTF is an AI computer? Is that some marketing bullshit?

[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 15 points 1 day ago

"Y2k ready" vibes.

[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

afaict they're computers with a GPU that has some hardware dedicated to the kind of matrix multiplication common in inference in current neural networks. pure marketing BS because most GPUs come with that these days, and some will still not he powerful enough to be useful

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[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago
[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 day ago (9 children)

AI is going to be this eras Betamax, HD-Dvd, or 3d TV glasses. It doesn't do what was promised and nobody gives a shit.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club -4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

No, I’m sorry. It is very useful and isn’t going away. This threads is either full of Luddites or disingenuous people.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Betamax had better image and sound, but was limited by running time and then VHS doubled down with even lower quality to increase how many hours would fit on a tape. VHS was simply more convenient without being that much lower quality for normal tape length.

HD-DVD was comparable to BluRay and just happened to lose out because the industry won't allow two similar technologies to exist at the same time.

Neither failed to do what they promised. They were both perfectly fine technologies that lost in a competition that only allows a single winner.

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The average technical person realises ai is shit.
The average non-technical person doesn't need an ai computer, because chatgpt is free.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

I care. I care enough to crater copilot.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The only real purpose of AI is to get sweet VC money. Beyond that...

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Google, Apple, Microsoft, Nvidia and everyone else is hyping up AI. Consumers are not really seeing much benefit by making everything AI-ified. Executives are raving over it but maybe aren't realize that people outside of the C-suite aren't that excited? Having it shoved in our faces constantly, or crammed in places companies hope they can save money is not helping either.

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