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submitted 1 year ago by tsukii@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I posted this question because I once saw a tweet that said something like:

"If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank"

What is your opinion on this? Do you agree with them?

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[-] megane_kun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I use adblock (uBlock origin) because the internet is nigh unusable otherwise. It's incredibly risky (even irresponsible) to not have adblock turned on given the danger of malware, or malware in the guise of advertisements. However, I'd whitelist sites that are decent about it--though in practice, I find it risky to temporarily disable my adblock just to test things, much less to whitelist them.

Most of all, there are other, better, ways to support content creators in the internet.

[-] jsveiga@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've never used them.

If I like an app or site, but the ads are annoying me, I do one of these:

  • If there's an option to pay the creator/aggregator to eliminate the ads, and the cost/benefit is worth it, I'll pay.

  • If there is no option to pay, but the app/content is worth the ads annoyance, I'll keep using the app/site and watch/skip/ignore the ads.

  • If there is no option to pay, or there is, but the price is higher than what I perceive as the app/content value, I'll stop using the app/site.

For example, I paid for Baconreader Premium, but I watch YouTube ads, and I removed several sites from my google home page feed because they had more ads than content.

I'm also stop using Reddit, as I don't think it's worth enduring their obnoxious native app.

And no, I don't use pirated software, nor watch or listen to pirated movies or music. If something is priced above what I consider it's worth, I just don't use it.

Yes, Baconreader Premium could be consider as a "reddit ad blocker", but it operated within Reddit's approval. Now Reddit changed their rules, and it's their rules.

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[-] MucherBucher@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I see how some friends and relatives browse the web. From googling a recipe to watching hours of youtube videos. Shockingly, they spend like 10% of the time staring at advertisments, waiting for them to pass by. Sometimes, when they are close friends, I "confront" them about it and 90% of the time their answer is "I didn't even know you can block them". Not once have I heard "I do it to generate money the creators and or websites".

My girlfriend used to show me youtube videos on her phone and she used a "trick" where you report the unskippable ads or whatver and then you get through them quicker. Having to wait for HER ads to pass started to annoy me so much that I upgraded my YouTube subscription to family. Now her and her siblings get to enjoy ad-free YouTube content.

[-] s049031@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. Ublock origin which also blocks YouTube ads and running a pihole for my home network for the rest of the devices.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Of course. Parts of the internet are basically unusable without it, and others are much less safe. Any creator who moans about this is just taking out their frustration about their chosen line of work on you, or guilt tripping you to make a penny. Plus, lots of creators have found ways to run ethical and safe do that don't put the user at risk.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Advertising is a form of hostile content. Advertisers mean us harm. They might have some tenuous moral right to try to expose me to their manipulation, but I am not obliged to co-operate and my moral right to protect myself is much stronger. This is implicit in every form of advertising. You are not doing anything immoral by buying a magazine and then not reading any of the ads it contains.

Arguments against ad blockers require that there are not alternate ways of exploiting content production, or any reasons to produce content other than financial gain.

[-] PastorHaggis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

At this point, the internet is so goddamn unusable without an adblocker that I don't know why anyone would try.

At work, I'll occasionally start talking to someone about some fandom like Star Wars or Pathfinder or whatever. I'll go to the wikia or fandom page for them and suddenly I get a million popups and half the page is covered in ads. It's actually so bad that my work's filter will occasionally block a site because they'll say that the ads are too bad.

The only time I see ads now is when I watch YouTube or Hulu on my TV, but even then I try to cast from my desktop (though Hulu ads seem to break through). I understand the idea of supporting creators, but for most YouTubers, their money comes from the sponsorships, not from me watching an ad.

[-] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

If your TV is an Android TV, try out SmartTubeNext.

[-] Bibez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use ad-blockers because I'm not a masochist. 🤨

[-] imkmiaw@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Been using adblock for years now, I haven't seen a single ad on my devices since then.

Last week my wife used her iPad so we could watch a video and I saw 2 ads in a row, it was kind of a strange experience.

If a creator needs money I'll donate directly to them, and if the only way to support is ads, then what a shame, I'm not gonna watch ads just because of a creator.

Wow, there are a lot of comments describing how neccessary it must be to use adblock. I don't think I can actually change anyone's mind here, but I'm going to share my perspective anyway:

While I don't agree with the statement quoted in the original post, I do think that ads are neccessary for most websites I visit to function. Not because of the content creators, but because of the companies running the platforms.

I know, ads can be problematic. But to outright block all ads is no solution. Privacy and data protection are very important to me, so I'm against every form of targeted ads. But just generic or maybe contextual ads? I don't see any harm in that. Malware is mentioned often in other comments. I disable JavaScript whenever I can. That's absolutely enough for blocking all ads to not make any real difference in terms of security. Although I have to admit that blocking scripts also blocks some ads.

But still, I see all ads on YouTube and search engines for example. And I'm happy to see them. It's incredible that such platforms, providing so many people with access to so much content from so many other people can actually exist. There are a lot of resources needed for this.

And if I still don't want to see ads simply because I don't want to? Then I don't have to, even without any adblockers. If I don't think a website is worth the ads it thinks it needs to show me, then I don't have to use it. I can just leave. If it is easy to provide the same service without ads then there must be countless alternatives already.

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[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I even sometimes walk out of the room to do something else when the TV adverts come on, otherwise I ignore them. No one has ever accused me of denying a tv channel of revenue.

[-] joelthelion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ads are bad for me, and for the most part, they're bad for the planet. So I use an ad blocker everywhere.

I'm aware that the web has a monetization problem without ads. But not blocking them doesn't help address the problem in any ways. I donate a little bit to creators I really like instead.

[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck ads. They always fuck me when I try to make money online. If the only way I'm allowed to make money is with "a real job" then they should "get a real job" too. Fuck 'em.

[-] squirrel_bear@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. When I visit my parents, who don't use adblocker, I get really anxious when I have to face the enormous flood of ads that you get without it. I wouldn't be able to concetrate to anything if I were interupted frequently with ad breaks. I also hate how ads volume loudness has been maximized, so they sound more loud than normal content.

[-] sudoku@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Why not help them and install ublock origin?

[-] series_editor@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i block a lot of the excessive tracking, but not all ads specifically. i think its better to not go to the site at all and find a competitor that does not have as many ads. going to the site when you have that bad of an issue with it sends a bad signal to the people running the site.

[-] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. I have a whole house dns adlock AND iuse a browser adblock as well.

Too many websites are COMPLETE SHIT TO NAVIGATE without adblock. They will be slow to load because of all the ad servers loading in. They fill so much of their space with ads that the main Co tent you're there to see is obfuscated. They break content up with ads, so you're forced to scroll past them.

I have never understood why we legally allow advertising at all. Why should we let companies harass literally anyone with advertisements? I know literally nobody who likes seeing ads on any kind of content. It's an incredibly annoying thing we have normalized, and it needs to get cut back.

[-] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Some ads are just fraud too.

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[-] ram@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I use AdBlock, PiHole, and several tracking protections because I'm fucking tired of being treated like a product by bigtech. I also have various websites blocked on the DNS level, using only privacy-respecting frontends (youtube, reddit, twitter)

[-] drifty@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lmao yeah uBlock Origin reks the internet fr. After chromium shifts to manifest v3, I'm switching to librewolf and uBlock to retain the same experience I've been having

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[-] wumpus@latte.isnot.coffee 1 points 1 year ago

If I don't block ads, then I'm stealing from the advertiser who's paying per impression to someone who isn't interested in their crap.

If the ad makes noise, moves around the screen, crashes my browser, or otherwise actively interferes with my ability to obtain the information I was looking for, It'll leave me with such a negative impression that I won't buy anything from that brand, now or ever -- or from the creator who allowed them to break an otherwise good website.

So really, by blocking ads, I'm defending the good reputation of both creators and their sponsors.

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I have been using adblockers for more than 20 years, probably read a post about it on Slashdot and I think userfriendly.org could have mentioned it.

A site added big blinking ads left, right and top and that pissed me off, I installed AdBlocker on FF and never looked back.

[-] BrainTheBest5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I do. And I do since I don't want to watch ads and being interrupted with the video. I also have a sponsorblock extention. I use those since ads are always the same. I know what NordVPN is and I won't sign up for that thing. Also, ad revenue on YouTube is near zero for creators but fir YouTuve itself I imagine it's pretty huge. So I'm bit damaging my creators. If I want to support them, I'd rather sign up for Patreon.

[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

So far for every project that I care of, creator, software or news, I pay for. Everything else, like YouTube or Social Media are mostly alive because of my content or my user data. If that's not enough then I won't really miss it. I grew up with much smaller communities and so far every site that was complaining about AdBlock, also wasn't worth disabling it. For some streams I turn off adblocker once in a while until I can't take the ads anymore. Sites that complain undervalue sharing of articles, a click doesn't cost them as much as a possible ads viewer would gain them.

[-] Stranger@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I use adguard.

[-] ataraxia937@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Every so often I try seeing if I can do without adblock. But man, the distraction, and the CPU usage, and the malvertising, ...

[-] Pandalus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That CPU usage is real. Been using adblock for a long time privately. Got a new work computer without adblock and goddamn the fan goes crazy just browsing simple sites with text (likely the movement in ads, if not all the trackers and JavaScript that is being loaded in the background). I also feel like getting dumber just seeing the damn things, they sure know how to attract attention and I feel duped each time my eyes are drawn to one.

[-] FujiTive@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

As I can remember I have always been using ad blockers. The few times I don't is when I buy a new device and I have to setup the browser, but the first thing I search is the browser store and install uBlock Origin. The internet is unusable without it, too many ads, too many sponsored sites. Without an ad blocker I would probably not use internet this much since the experience is awful

[-] sonalder@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I block all ads, I rather tips some moneroj or sats to creators, buy some merch, etc. From my point of view giving 5$ to a creator will be more profitable for him/her than watching a hell lot of ads

[-] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use adblockers wherever possible. For instance, Iceraven with Ublock Origins in my phone, Firefox with Ublock Origins in PC, Infinity for Reddit (will stop using on 30th June), XManager for Spotify and Revanced Extended for YouTube.

[-] Daftman@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spotify? I suppose you don't have a paid subscription, which is why you use i Xmanager?

[-] sophia@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, uBlock Origin on Firefox and AdGuard on mobile devices. Can't live without adblock these days, especially for watching YouTube.

[-] Potato_in_my_anus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Same here, uBlock on Firefox with my desktop. On mobile you should try youtube ReVanced.

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[-] DekkerNSFW@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Ads can deliver viruses, many ads are animated or have sound, or both. If every ad were static and safe, I wouldn't mind so much... but alas, that's not a thing. So AdBlock it is!

[-] squirrel_bear@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Not all creators are influencers, but all influencers are one-person ad distrubutor agencies. Most of the influencers business model is based on ad revenue and making ads themselves (collabs).

[-] robolemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wanna know why I use ublock origin eveywhere? If you're brave (and dumb) go to wordhippo.com with a "naked" browser (no adblock and default privacy settings). Then come back and talk to me when you've removed all the malware from your system.

[-] pumpkin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I use ublock origin. I don't like the ad model and many ads on the web are privacy invasive. I'm not averse paying for content (something I'm doing for some of it) but I won't watch ads to fund creators.

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