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[–] frezik@midwest.social 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Those are put there for SEO purposes. Google favors sites with these big stories. The copyright issue alone doesn't justify what's there; you could do a quick blurb of a few sentences and it would be enough. Plenty of cookbooks do that.

This is why a lot of those sites have a button that says "skip to recipe". It's a bunch of text that's meant to be for robots, not you, and they really don't care if you read it.

Now that it's being created by LLMs, we may have the first known example of human language written by robots and intended for robots. Welcome to a cyberpunk dystopia.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

SEO is part of it, but it's also literally just more physical real estate for ads. Recipe sites, including personal recipe blogs, are infamous for the sheer volume of ads placed on them. Yes, everyone just scrolls to the recipe so it kind of doesn't matter, but longer text means more space for ads.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There's so much "work" done in our capitalist society that is actively creating a drag on our lives, all to extract more money from us to the billionaire class. It will never be enough for them. Bezos and Fuckerberg would own slaves if the state allowed them to.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But I was told capitalism was the most efficient system.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Most efficient for what?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 6 days ago

Don't worry about it, it's just more efficient.

[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So why not put the recipe first, and the bullshit after?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Search engines favor text earlier in the site. Text "above the fold" (the area where you wouldn't have to scroll to see it) is scored higher.

https://www.pedalo.co.uk/seo-experiment-text-position-keyword-rankings/

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

That actually sucks. Googles SEO algorithms force websites to homogenize.

[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Ahh, that explains it then. Cheers!

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because that's what computers used to be for. Now we drive engagement.

[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But OP stated that, the text only being there to manipulate SEO, the authors don't really care of you read it. So out it at thd bottom, after the recipe!

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I think I live in a dreamworld like in the old show Computer Chronicles when computers were presented by scientists and used by engineers to do actual work. It was easy (for me) to grasp.

Now we have every sector of human activity, including those I consider at best useless, at worst harmful, like endless advertising, merchandising, propagandizing, misinforming, etc boosted exponentially because of essentially free computer power.

Not building a leisure society and using our tools for good, instead we just amplify the worst aspects of humanity.

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

I've had to explain that to people soooo many times. All those words, all those pics (with alt text), it's just to make the site higher on the search results...

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

The cruel part is that it was nested somewhere in the story and he scrolled past it just after day one.

[–] paperemail@links.rocks 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hey OP, please credit the creator if you can next time!

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/muffins

[–] weird@sub.wetshaving.social 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh wow, didn't realize it was cropped.

[–] paperemail@links.rocks 3 points 6 days ago

I don’t think it is cropped? There doesn’t seem to be a signature or watermark or whatever on the original either.

So I guess you did your best on this one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Recipe articles are probably the best examples of web content whose only real purpose is ad clicks. All of the text is flavor text, in every sense.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

justtherecipe.com

[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Holy fuck I needed this in my life

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A website that begs you to download their app instead of just having recipes?

[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

True, it does advertise its app. But you can still put in a recipe link and it cleans it up without the app or logging in. Which is way better than the original recipe website.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago

recipe-scrapers, a python library for scraping the recipes only from hundreds of different recipe sites and blogs. Powers other tools like pure-recipe. Doesn't use AI.

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Is there a site that does it right? I just need an ingredient list, times, temperatures and maybe a handful of specific pointers if I really need them.

[–] textik@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

seriouseats.com used to be a lot better, but the fluff before the recipe is generally focused on why the recipe uses the ingredients and quantities it uses, what else was tried, and what the results were. Especially for the older articles written by J. Kenji Lopez-Alt, it ends up being almost more useful than the final recipe they land on. I know you were asking for a no-frills recipe site, but this approach is great for two reasons: 1) you can scroll to the bottom for a no-frills recipe, and 2) if that didn't work, or if you want to tweak it, the full article has a ton of helpful information, and not, like, a biography of the author's grandma.

His chocolate chip cookie article is a all-timer for food science.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Someone should make a browser extension or something that automatically recognizes what part of the page is the recipe, extracts it, and only shows you that.

[–] shoo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

The paprika app does this

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

swissmilk.ch

chefkoch.de

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You of in the food and of out the cold hot food

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Come again?

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 days ago

I use https://www.copymethat.com/ and share an account with my wife. The app makes it easy for us to use while cooking and scraping recipes even works on mobile! You can add the ingredients to a shopping list, and it even organizes them by aisle/category!

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 80 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a firefox extention that filters out everything irrelevant to the recipe. At this point as soon as I open the browser half my ressources go into reverting enshittification.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was life changing when I realised uBlock Origin can block whatever I want from web pages and not just ads.

All the links at the right of an article, headers and menus that want to continue occupying screen space after I've scrolled down, the entire comments section on some pages. Bam, gone.

Pages with cookie banners that don't have a one-click reject all button? Just block the banner.

[–] Brandonazz@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Some websites are literally only providing the very top of the article, and if you block the banner you will find that it abruptly ends. In cases like this, you can use archive.ph, though.

[–] Lenny@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Add “cooked.wiki/“ in front of any recipe url to preserve your sanity

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[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the "jump to recipe" button doesnt work or doesnt exist, Im out.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sadly, by the time you see that the button isn't there, you've already given them the visit and ad impressions... Well, unless you run an ad blocker but what horrible person would do that?

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Adblocker FTW. Also im pretty sure ads dont pay shit without clickthrough. God the current financialisation of the web sucks ass.

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