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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 days ago (16 children)

Here we go again,

The Peaceful LA Protests of June, 2025 worked. We're all talking about it now. If the LA protests weren't peaceful, we would have different talking points for this weekend's protests and protesters would have been killed. This administration wants this.

YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39873361

Also, this:

Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/22/protest-trump-resistance-power

[–] scintilla@piefed.blahaj.zone 37 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This administration already called in the national guard for a peaceful protest. Do you think that it will stop here and the they will not continue to commit more and more violence against peaceful protestors until we reach a breaking point and have to start defending ourselves?

Or are we supposed to allow ourselves to become martyrs and die before we fight back against those that would see us dead.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 30 points 4 days ago

Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts

This is misleading. Nonviolent resistance is obviously going to be more likely to succeed because armed conflict only happens when the government digs in its heels after the nonviolent resistance. What? Did you want Syrians to nonviolently resist Assad's Sarin gas?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago

This administration wants this.

This administration wants people not to resist them. Failing that people resisting them verbally but in no practical manner will do just fine.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Um, a lot gets done without violence, including regime change. In fact, nothing swells the numbers of a movement like state brutality on peaceful protests, and that is amplified with the ubiquity of the cell-phone camera and the internet.

This is not to say a movement by violence is bad, just that it can detract sympathizers.

But don't worry, when the regime has to choose between giving up (say in the face of a general strike) and sending out the goons, they'll always choose the latter. No one tosses the One Ring into the fires of Mt. Doom. It's the same paradigm that leaves us with senile geriatrics unwilling to relinquish the power of office until it is pried from their cold, dead hands.

Usually, by then, the military has realized the regime is illegal and as luney as Aerys II Targaryen (The Mad King, who Jamie slew, SoIaF) and is willing to do the wet-work. By artillery if necessary.

Then again, destruction of property like burning the Waymo cabs, is a common necessity. That wasn't the act of rioters, but saboteurs. Waymos are snitches and have been reporting to ICE the location of targeted civilians.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

in the grand scheme of world history, a hell of a lot more has gotten done with violence than without.

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[–] BubbaGumpsBackLumps@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Guys please, whatever you do, do NOT throw water balloons filled with liquid ass at ICE, that would be a REALLY bad idea...

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This liberal will be fucking armed and on target tomorrow. Do with that information what you will.

[–] GeraldOfHillwood@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Americans kill nazis.

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