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submitted 11 months ago by Saki@monero.town to c/meta@monero.town

Why did you remove the “How do I start mining monero?” post?

Because the OP may have been a child? Or simply because it should have been asked in Monero Mining rather than in Monero? Or perhaps because the question was trivial (too basic)?

While I do feel (a few more) rules are necessary here, I’d like them to be explicit and transparent, if possible. Thank you.

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

its not in the modlog, so I think the original poster removed their own post.

https://monero.town/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=393773

[-] Saki@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I see. Thank you.

Hypothetically, what would happen if someone explicitly said, “I am an underage child. I want to mine Monero. How can I do that?” Would it be allowed to try to help them?

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 3 points 11 months ago

Not an admin but i see no reason why not. Are children entitled to information, imo yes. They just like any other person have a choice of what to do with that information.

[-] Saki@monero.town 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, basically. We’ve got to handle things delicately, though, to avoid any misunderstanding.

[-] admin@monero.town 3 points 11 months ago

Only illegal or completely unrelated (spam/scam advertising) content will be deleted by me (mods can however do as they please in their respective communities). So far there hasn't really been any need for moderating and I'd love it to stay that way.

[-] Saki@monero.town 1 points 11 months ago

Thank you for clarification.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 11 months ago

it feels like a trap. I'm not sure of the laws on minor activities, but anyone saying "i'm a vulnerable and protected class, teach me how to do something controversial"... gives me pause (yes monero is controversial in some circles)

[-] naphtha@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago

yes monero is controversial in some circles

and? you care too much about what other people think when in reality it doesn't matter, at all

[-] Saki@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago

A good point. I think most people assume cryptocurrencies = bad/scam, and they’re mostly right too. In this specific case, the OP didn’t say anything explicitly; he was looking for a way to mine xmr without age verification (so it was an easy guess that perhaps he’s a kid, but the situation was ambiguous).

I’d like to believe he’s so smart that as soon as he got all the info he needs he deleted everything (a nice move). But it’s possible that he felt unwelcome and upset, as a troll called him “freeloader” (re: mining w/ gratis electricity). Whatever. Freedom to delete your own post is important, and I’m happy to know that at least it’s not an admin who deleted it.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 11 months ago

There's a lot of really negative opinions expressed on Lemmy. It's not exactly the most welcoming community. 90% welcoming 10% fuck you. So if you're not ready for it it's a little rough

[-] Saki@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago

Ah! Now I know the background—from where the OP came and why. Kudos.

[-] monerobull@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago

A shame since it got a ton of engagement.

[-] Saki@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago

It would have been exciting if he commented like “I think it’s working now.” then “I got my first xmr!” Vivid documentation from the point of the view of a first-time miner…

Also, while @mylikes@stranger.social may have been a troll, they happened to ask a good question: Why does anyone want to use a Tor exit node in a specific country? Apparently the OP deleted the post before anyone answers that question.

[-] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

@Saki @monerobull Huh? You mean me?
I didn't delete anything, more likely I removed duplicated post. Am I OP you mean about?

[-] Saki@monero.town 1 points 11 months ago

No, the original poster (the kid) deleted the whole thing—his post with all the comments (including yours) to it. Anyone is free to delete their own post(s) and/or comment(s) anytime.

He could have just created a new temp account anonymously e.g. via Tails, instead of using his “real” (main) one, using a random, generic instance & nick, and asked questions more vaguely, like “Do I need to share any of my personal info to mine Moneo, like name, phone number, DOB, or something like that?” Then no one would have known anything about him, perhaps better for him that way for protecting secrecy. Just a thought…

[-] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 11 months ago

@Saki Wow.. I don't know why they had to go through that much trouble, but it's kinda BadAss. 🔥🤘

[-] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

@Saki @monerobull Okay Answer that, I'm curious now because of you, why specific country? Let me guess, to watch geo-restricted Netflix movies or maybe other streaming services there, but that thing I believe wasn't built for that, and relying to unofficial app could have their money stolen.

[-] Saki@monero.town 1 points 11 months ago

The kid needs 5 € to get VPN. Mining xmr for that is inefficient. A logical question to ask (before explaining how to mine) is: do you really need VPN to begin with? Can’t you use a no-charge option instead? That’s why I asked that.

ExitNodes in torrc is a well-documented, official option of Tor, not a “hack”. You’re right, one should not use it unless really necessary. Example: you’re on Tor buying a digital gift card from proxystore with xmr; they ask your country; if you’re a EU citizen, you might want to say non-EU. When you do that, common sense dictates it’s better if your exit node is not in the EU, say in the US. When you redeem your “American” gift card, again you may want to play it safe and consistently use a US exit node in case they GeoIP you. When you’re done, you delete the ExitNodes & StrictNodes directives. Just one example.

[-] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 11 months ago

@Saki I didn't know that, thank you. 😁👍

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