I can’t comment on those models,but I have the Baratza Sette 270w. It’s over 5 years old now and the gearbox shaft itself a few months after warranty ran out… I contacted them and they told me it was a known issue in the older models that they had since fixed and then replaced the gearbox for free out of warranty. Ideally it wouldn’t have broken in the first place, but props to a company for fixing the problem when they had no legal obligation to.
I'm an espresso handgrinder sort of person, but I do know that the Ode 2 is pretty well thought of for pour over. If you aren't doing espresso I don't think you can go wrong with it. James Hoffman did a video review on his YouTube channel a few months back.
How are you hand grinding for espresso, out of curiosity?
Using a Kingrinder K4, which I believe shares burrs with the 1zpresso J-Max. Takes probably less than a minute to grind 18g of medium roast. Pretty happy with it. I think it has about 250 clicks, so lots of precision.
I have an 1zpresso J-Max for espresso grinding. It's the top of their line for espresso and still on sale I think. It's a nice grinder, although grinding very light roasts for expresso can be a real chore.
I like my Encore. Haven’t used/owned an ode but strongly considered it. I’ve also considered upgrading to a Vario W+ or Orphan Apex.
The ode appears to be more compact, quieter, and more upgradeable. The ode’s catch cup may be a bit messier but the static suppressor is a great feature. The ode’s capacity seems to be a bit less. Fellow support has garnered a lot of gripes online whereas Baratza’s support seems to get lots of praise.
I don't have either grinder (I'm a hand grinder user), so I'm just synthesizing reviews here, but from what I understand, the Ode 2 should be a much "better" option by enthusiast standards for filter coffee. The burrs are very well regarded and supposed to be competitive with SSP burrs which are sort of one of the gold standards in flat burrs.
The Encore ESP is a conical burr grinder that's espresso capable, so it's going to produce more fines and have a more full-bodied texture but with less clarity. However! some folks actually prefer that even for filter brewing. (E.g., let's say you mostly drink dark roasts or you just hate tasting acidity, then high-clarity might actually not be what you're looking for.)
Can't search both grinders right now.
Don't know if just one or both are burr grinders, but balde to burr is the best upgrade for grinders
Both have pretty nice burrs. The Encore ESP has an upgraded steel conical burr taken from the Virtuoso and the Ode v2 has upgraded flat burrs that are similar to the posh SSP flat burrs.
Gonna be honest, I misread to the title as a reference to Grindr, and I was wondering what an inability to choose between hot guys had to do with coffee.
But as to your actual question, your knowledge of coffee is obviously way beyond mine mate. I hope someone posts an actual answer.
You are not the only one :-)
Ngl i thought the same
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