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[-] Armen12@lemm.ee 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's astonishing how little you people give a damn about this. The amount of garbage China gets away with in this world is incredible

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago

Who is "you people"?
And what would those people do exactly?

China has over 1.4 Billion people. And it's military is twice the size of the US military. Just for reference.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

Twice the size, but they don't have anywhere near as much military hardware. Another factor, the US military logistics system is also the most robust in the world.

Infantry might fight wars, but logistics wins wars. (This is why Russia is losing in Ukraine, they lack the logistics system to deliver things outside their own borders)

China doesn't have a great worldwide logistics system, but like Russia, they have a great internal system.

So a Chinese invasion of the US would basically be dead in the water, likely literally. As in, the ships carrying the invasion force would be sunk before they could unload.

A US invasion of China would be a deadly slog. The US would likely have air superiority, but that only goes so far.

The major factor in any fight, oil. China doesn't have much in the way of their own reserves. They get most of their oil via tanker from the Middle East. And those shipping lanes are a massive weak point.

One that everyone knows, and also watches.

The final factor is the nuclear capabilities. China is outclassed there as well, but any nuclear fight is one that everyone loses.

The TLDR; China has a lot of troops, but not as much of everything else.

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Military size means nothing if you can't move it, thank you USN.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure they can move it how ever they want to inside thier own country.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -2 points 11 months ago

China now has the largest fleet in the world by hull count.

They're still in the process of building up their carrier fleet but it will be able to match the Pacific fleet within the next decade.

I think any discussion on which fleet could destroy the other would be irrevocably tainted by jingoism and the fact that there hasn't been a serious naval engagement in eighty years, but the main point is that this weird idea people have that the US Navy is the undisputed king of the ocean is the kind of arrogance that has been punished countless times in history.

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

The Pacific fleet? The US has 12 of those.

My guy the U.S. Army also has more ships than the USN by hull count.

There wouldn't even be a fight.

[-] Armen12@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago

Because this has been going on for years now, but it seems to not matter to most news organizations who barely give it any coverage. And we can do something about it by making people more aware of it

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago

What would you do? Serious question.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Well, we could start by not giving them all of the money but that would be an inconvenience to shareholders so I guess there's nothing we can do really.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

That's not something the average person has any control over

[-] ZaroniPepperoni@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

"It's OK though the us does bad stuff too so china deserves a pass and should be left alone" - Grad + Hexbear geniuses

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

The CCP are a real blight on this world and on the Chinese people.

Fuck the CCP

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, because the Dui Hua Foundation is so reliable.

[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

So how exactly was she “engaging state security,” by teaching about Uyghur culture?!

[-] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

China is a tyrannical regime. Logic is not a requirement.

[-] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 4 points 11 months ago

Well, she was missing since 2017. Probably being re-educated to teach Uyghur kids to worship Xinnie the Pooh

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Hexbear cheers uncontrollably

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


BEIJING (AP) — A prominent Uyghur scholar specializing in the study of her people’s folklore and traditions has been sentenced to life in prison, according to a U.S.-based foundation that works on human rights cases in China.

Rahile Dawut was convicted on charges of endangering state security in December 2018 in a secret trial, the San Francisco-based Dui Hua Foundation said in a statement Thursday.

“The sentencing of Professor Rahile Dawut to life in prison is a cruel tragedy, a great loss for the Uyghur people, and for all who treasure academic freedom,” John Kamm, executive director of the Dui Hua Foundation, said in a statement.

She disappeared in late 2017 amid a brutal government crackdown aimed at the Uyghurs, a Turkic, predominately Muslim ethnicity native to China’s northwest Xinjiang region.

Dawut was internationally renowned for her work studying sacred Islamic sites and Uyghur cultural practices in Xinjiang and across Central Asia, authoring many articles and books and lecturing as a visiting scholar abroad, including at Cambridge and the University of Pennsylvania.

News of her life sentence shocked Freeman and other academics in Uyghur studies, as Dawut didn’t engage in activities opposing the Chinese government.


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[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not sorry to say this , I don't trust anything this paper says simply because it is an attempt to beat the cold war drum

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

The US based foundation the article is citing said they have a source who told them this woman was sentenced to life. Other than that Radio Free Asia claims to have interviewed her coworkers to confirm she was arrested in 2018. That’s the extent of the evidence as no other information was provided. I think it’s reasonable to have doubts.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago

Take this with a grain of salt. There’s not any evidence presented here to suggest that these claims are true. The US based foundation the AP is citing references an unnamed source but that’s it.

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