FIAT failing so hard it gets to fail twice
this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2025
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Looks like Dodge is in there twice too.
You mean the Dodge// and the RAM logo? Because RAM was split off into its own brand awhile ago for its trucks. Technically their new pickups are RAM 1500 without any Dodge branding. In practice though people still call them Dodge trucks and they still sell from the same place so nothing has really changed.
Edit: and their work vans. And for North America. Not sure about the global operations.
i worked for an insurance company for a while and you wouldn't believe how many people called in to complain that they couldn't find their trucks in the menu to get a insurance quote. They were looking under "Dodge" of course...
That's funny, probably not for you though. It was a questionable choice by Stellantis so I see the confusion but also if you spent 5-6 figures on a vehicle you should probably know the proper name.
Fail It Again, Tony
At this point in the car industry, the logos and brands are playing musical chairs with one another
Don’t worry. Angry old white guys with maga hats and stickers of a little kid peeing on something, maybe a punisher sticker, will keep ram in business.
Don't forget the sticker of a tattered black and blue flag that may or may not have a swastika in there somewhere.
It's actually four Fs
Whichever company owns Chrysler has been flailing around from one financial disaster to another for my whole life, and I ain't that young anymore.
I used to really like their sedans. The 300 was the last good car they made before they were tossed aside by Stellantis to make fucking minivans.
At least they still make minivans, everybody else stopped making them in favour of these ugly-ass "SUV" which are worse in every aspect except towing... There are only 4 options on that market now (well, five if you count the Pacifica separately from the Voyager/Grand Caravan, but it's more of a trim difference, so let's say 4.5)
Is ram really failing? I see those shitty trucks spewing black smog everywhere around here.
Stellantis had a disastrous 2024. This is mostly a joke as they are still a massive company, but you understand losing 70% of profits in a year is quite the drastic thing for one.
That's a massive drop for any company, although I suspect the US manufacturing industry isn't doing well in general.
I suspect the main reason is people become far more concerned with reliability and running cost when times are tight, and their vehicles are anything but reliable.
this is what happens when you turn your company into a shadow bank instead of actually selling your work
I feel sorry for opel. They made the most out of what gm gave them, now they're doing the same shit under psa.
I don't remember seeing 1 jeep in China, but every mall has a Jeep clothing store.
ferrari strat
And Harley Davidson.
They go hard on branding. They're one of the few motorcycle brands that let you go for a test ride (others might have a special event day at a dealership where you can ride around the parking lot). If you go for it, expect to be suited up in all the Harley leathers by the sales guy. It's not a motorcycle, it's a branded lifestyle where you ride around sometimes.
If only literally any other company had that branding. Why does the archetypal American bike have to be some 800 lb monstrosity that's constantly having minor mechanical issues, and impractical for going to work or getting groceries, or going around traffic, that absolutely sucks to pull onto a curb?
They're so big on branding the logo shape is just a preset now. There's a local energy drink that uses their orange shield lol
GM not so far behind.
That's their fault for killing the 2.6.
It's sad. Peugeot used to make decent cars. But they have really not done well since dropping diesel.
I've been told my whole life to never buy Peugeot because they can't handle cold climates at all.
Yeah probably. I still drive a 35 yo Peugeot, and it's aging decently well for a 1500€ beater.
But winters in France are mild. Colder area might give issues to the chassis with rust.
They are the road stars in Magreb and Argentina
After having owned a few if these brands I decided I'd only own some Japanese, German or Korean cars. Never Italian or French. They are great the first 5 years or so, but age like milk. Owned an Opel and it was pretty good, but I guess it's now off the list. Stellantis is the collection of the worlds least reliable cars.
I drive a 26 year old Skoda (VAG group) which has had not a single major repair, except for timing belts, a clutch, and other consumables.
Some diesel Peogeot and Citroen from early 2000s are still running like a charm with 300k+ km. Depends on the model I guess
Some is the key word here.
Fiat stands for: Fix It Already Tomorrow
I had a friend whose dad had a little FIAT. He said it stood for Fix It Again Tony, which is obviously a stereotypical slur but also his mechanic was named Tony so it was technically the truth.
The irony is that the T stands for Torino, Turin, the city card are supposedly being built, while FIAT became the italian symbol for offshoring
Meanwhile Renault, also a Stellantis brand, has made 2 Car of the Years back to back.
Renault is absolutely not a Stellantis brand. It is its own car company.
I had heard that they had merged, but that was apparently bad info.
I've seen random funny things being thrown in here.
Renault being part of stellantis is at the top.
I reckon the saddest story here is Abarth, coming from sports exhaust and tuning origins, to then making/tuning some truly impressive cars and a record list a mile long.
And now it's Fiat slop of cheap EVs to balance Fiats 'green/emissions' score card. Itll truely be a sad end to a beautiful brand.
Jeep is far from failing. And you’d have to pry my ram truck from my cold dead fingers.
Don't worry, your RAM will die long before you do.
Your car is not gonna vanish, but Stellantis had a disastrous 2024. It is a conglomerate, so if the top fails every company under it does too.
Yeah the former ceo was definitely a bad choice.
Didn't Jeep just roll out a software update that was bricking 4xe models recently? Also quality has been plummeting (rust, death wobble, garbage 3.6L, etc) for years. They also just did a recall for over 100k hybrid models for fire risks