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Berlin power cut: Activist group says it was behind fire that cut electricity supply - BBC News (www.bbc.com)

submitted 1 month ago by SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml to c/europeansocialists@lemmygrad.ml

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[–] acute_kernel_panic@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its very weird that they first send it to the media and then upload it on indymedia. That is very unusual because its just not a good idea.

Also it was published by a group most likely not active anymore. Vulkangruppe was last mentioned in the yearly report of the state protection I think 2019. Also they didnt do any social media work. That could mean nothing but it is very out of character.

It might just be a false flag.

That happended before and apperantly it was russia but i dont belive that for a second. i think it is a false flag of the BND acting out a "false flag from russia". Thats all conspiracy theory now though.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's pretty weird to see so many people jump onto the Russia did it conspiracy theory that is based on a misspelling of JD Vance's name.

Wouldn't rule it out entirely but it doesn't really seem like the most likely explanation. I don't think the BND does domestic sabotage really. Without track record, blaming it on the BND seems like baseless speculation too.

There are multiple operations after 2019 that are attributed to Vulkan and tbh this one looks fairly in line with some of their earlier work.

[–] acute_kernel_panic@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I did not know they misspelled JD vance Name lol. Idk id have used ai to get rid of my ideolekt but apperantly they didnt do that.

Idk if it was the BND i agree with you after reconsidering thats unlikely.

For russia to have done that im missing a Motive.

My forther speculations:

A nazigroup around afd done that. Motive fuck leftists over as they use it to do propaganda. Records show that the AfD did a information requests about this exact energy grid point to our goverment.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Vance misspelling is the smoking gun. Appearantly it's what you get if you Google translate one of the Russian spellings of Vance.

Sure it could be the Nazis to be I just don't get why people think it's particular unlikely that it was the anarchists who did it.

[–] acute_kernel_panic@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Idk none of these informations are non verifiable. It could be anarchists, it could be other actors. No-one is gonna know.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If this is like an actual fuck up by an anarchist group then lmao wtf guys

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://de.indymedia.org/node/565575

They call China a communist dictatorship.

I think targeting Tesla a few years ago was funnier. Sabotaging civilian infrastructure doesn't seem ideal even if it's mostly in rich neighborhoods.

[–] Orcinus@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, they're not wrong. It is a communist dictatorship. A damn awesome one too, it just revolutionized electrical power. That's what happens when communists have control of a country.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

(derogatory)

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ok now the Vulkangruppe is distancing itself too https://de.indymedia.org/node/566531 but also reaffirming https://knack.news/14765 that they did it.

Looks like multiple anarchist groups operating under the same name. But who knows at this point.