This is a stupid move, and is causing a lot of anger. Telegram has become effectively unusable to Russian users overnight.
Privacy
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
Some Rules
- Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
- Don't promote proprietary software
- Try to keep things on topic
- If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
- Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
- Be nice :)
Related communities
much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
They're releasing their own state controlled version called "Max" - so that's intentional. Even if this - at least temporarily - damages their own internal communications (also military I heard).
And yet, Russians will still rather fire up a VPN to use Telegram than using the state-sponsored MAX. Moreover, one of the most vocal groups denouncing what Russia does to Telegram are soldiers in Ukraine, which the government usually relies on for support and which define Russian government legitimacy.
Can russians use tor as a proxy?
Via bridges, yes
good they all should do that. that should solve all the problems they have with VPNs, since tor allows any tcp connection, right?
Tor is relatively slow and bridges are regularly blocked. It's a high-effort, low-bandwith option, so most people still prefer more traditional VPNs.
Tor is fast enough for text-media communications. The innovations of mass internet video have spoiled us.
Can't you just use VPNs with wonky protocol that will not be noticed?
A lot of legitimate connections are affected. There is a whitelist of mostly useless services and Telegram users are being MAX-herded. There currently seems to be no VPN that works reliably, out of the box.
Russia got extremely good at deep packet inspection and determining all sorts of protocols.
Most existing protocols are now blocked for connections outside the country
"Only VPN tunnels that are pre-approved by state authorities will continue to function," Mazay Banzaev, the Founder of Russia-based Amnezia VPN, told TechRadar in an interview earlier this year."
What defense is there against this? How do you get around this if it's implemented?
"Obfuscation", tunneling vpn traffic through harmless-looking https or wss. I use wstunnel, but there are other options.
As before, keep on coming up with more sophisticated ways to trick the automatic detection.
Please Putin harden your heart and make the internet Chinese. Destroy Terrorgram!
Every nation will get a "great firewall" at this rate
The Great Chinese Firewall isn't nearly as oppressive.