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[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I’d be interested to know who did this, and why, rather than knee-jerk to anti-Jewish violence. I would first assume that the violence is anti-Israel, with no information, given the current political climate.

It’s my understanding that Hatzola aren’t politically active and that some of their members are actually anti-Zionists. If they were targeted by anti-Zionists, then these criminals are ignorant, stupid, or anti-Jewish…I wouldn’t assume the latter.

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Jewish or Israeli?

The distinction matters.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It really doesn’t since 85-90% of jews support the Jewish state as it currently operates. This was also an Orthodox Jewish service so definitely Israel supporters.

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Entirely made up statistic by an actual antisemite piece of shit. Go fuck yourself nazi.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/op_eds/2025/02/14/the-vast-majority-of-us-jews-support-israel-lets-act-on-that-knowledge/

“Surveys in other countries where there is both a sizable Jewish community and a coruscating wave of antisemitism have delivered similar results. Hamas and its international cheerleaders are widely detested, and Israel is regarded supportively and affectionately.”

Yes the number is likely around that 85% mark.

https://www.ajc.org/news/ajc-survey-shows-american-jews-are-deeply-and-increasingly-connected-to-israel

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Of course that’s what that data says - it’s from the fucking Zionists.

If I grab curated data points written by a group wanting to promote their agenda, I too can back up unsubstantiated claims.

The problem clearly stated with your “polls”

https://jewishcurrents.org/are-95-of-jews-really-zionists

https://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-zionism-among-jews

https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/zionism/

Go home racist.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your sources are older, from before October 7th and the rallying around Jewish identity.

To mimic your point. Of course that’s what the data says - it’s from “liberal” jews trying to cover for Israel.

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

oh my god. You’re not worth the air you breathe you antisemitic piece of shit Nazi.

Do me a favor and the rest of the world a favor eat an entire bottle of advil.

You aren’t worth the energy it takes to move my thumbs. You aren’t worth the air you breathe. You are a complete waste of a pile of shit.

Kill yourself, you racist fuck.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

That’s a lot of words to not refute my previous statements. You know I’m right and can’t / won’t accept it. The Jewish ethnoreligion sees you as cattle, a slave for when they rule the world.

[–] jefferyjefferson@lemmy.org 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You can share and question sources without resorting to insults.

They don't help your case and just make you look insecure about your argument.

[–] i_ben_fine@midwest.social 0 points 5 days ago

This might be a dumb time to ask this question. It's an ambulance service in London. It's Bri'ish.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is an antisemitic attack. The perpetrators must be brought to justice.

Nothing to do with critical views about Israel's unlawful and illegitimate / inhumane violence. The perpetrators must be brought to justice.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, the perpetrators must be brought to justice.

No, we shouldn’t assume it’s an anti-Jewish attack…given the current situation re Israel.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you're attacking a Jewish organization just for being Jewish and assuming that means they bear the burden of Israeli crimes you're an anti-semite.

If you attack an ambulance performing medical duties for any reason, you're a peace of shit that deserves to get got and are almost certainly being a bigot of some form.

Agree with both. But neither are parts of the facts of the event to my knowledge. I’d prefer that we knew something about the attackers and their motivations before we jump to antisemitism.

Commenters like you not being able to separate an ethnicity from a nationality are no different to the motivations you ascribe to the unknown attacker, as far as bigotry is concerned.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Must they? Do they even have that on terf island?

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago

An exerpt from "the big book of rules of how to be a decent human being" for you

"Rule 1. Dont be a cunt.

The end."

This concludes the big book of rules of how to be a decent human being.

And yes, despitethe actions of the settler state, and the actions of britain that led to ths creation of said genocidal state, there are still laws in the UK to protect EVERYONE, even if they fall for propaganda and support hateful things.

Someone far smarter than I am said

"If you don't support human rights for everyone, you don't support human rights at all."

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, unless we adopt the principle of ignoring crimes.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago

When conservatives and those who serve their interests do them, we already have.

[–] kevinsbacon@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Wtf is there segregated healthcare in the UK?

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Two things:

  1. It’s not restricted the the UK. Hartzola (the various orthodox Jewish ambulances services) operate all over the world.
  2. Although they tend to be based in majority Jewish areas, they don’t restrict their service to Jews, as part of their code.

So is the point to cover specific religious taboos?

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

I'm not familiar with situation in the UK, but in other countries there are NGOs that try to complement the national healthcare services, ranging from financing ambulances to at home care. They are often tied to religious movements.

At a quick glance, Hatzola Northwest seems to provide services for free to everyone in their catchment area, so any segregation is geographic in origin.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Nope, it is an adjunct funded by the Jewish community to avoid accidental things not approved of (can't list what as I can't recall).

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Jewish people throughout the world reap what Israel has sown

Having said that, don't think for a second that this group aren't Zionists

Hartzola? They’re not Zionists, to my knowledge. They tend to be Jewish orthodox healthcare professionals, most of whom are neutral on Zionism, and some who are even anti-Zionist.