A community for Lemmy users interested in privacy
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Lets be real, NordVPN has done so many shady things themselve (fake limited time discount on their website which is illegal in many regions of the world), no one who knows about these and cares about data protection and privacy would use it anyway.
But nice that they add some pressure ig.
It's an easy way for them to gain some reputation to monetize it later.
Place your bets everyone, which way do you think this will go?
Canada doesn't pass the surveillance law
The law passes and some/all of Signal/DDG/NordVPN remain anyway
The law passes and they exit Canada
(something else)
#2 DDG might not leave, Signal might do something maliciously compliant, and NordVPN will just leave.
How could signal comply? It would ruin their brand.
Maliciously comply.
Maybe have the app available in Canada, but it only lets users email the government.
I'm thinking the law passes but the courts kill it due to it violating our Charter. I also feel that the tech companies will not wait for the court case to conclude before leaving Canada.
Or
2 or 3
I guess signal has more to lose in reputation, than Canada brings them as country
For the other ones, I don't know
Why does humanity have to keep fighting the same fights against different governments over and over again?
Cannot governments, for once, be even slightly on the side of a free society?
Because we have capitalism.
States are built on control. They literally only exist because they are the dominant power structure in a specific area.
States pushing for more freedom is antithetical.
I agree with that (unlike the other answer I got to this; yeah, Soviet-aligned states were definitely very free societies amirite /s), but then again, sometimes there are more or less successful movements toward more freedom. The history of the 20th century alone is that of the century ending with much more freedom in the world than there was during most of it. How have we completely forgotten those values?
Yes. Just to be clear I’m not a pessimist, I don’t believe we can’t achieve more freedom. I’m just an anarchist. I believe to truly end domination and have self-determination, the move towards freedom must ultimately aim to end the state.
I think there are things we need some sort of state for... but certainly think its power should be limited so that it can't do things like what this thread is about!
The problem is that tracking people is big money, so tech companies like Google, Meta, Palantir, Flock, etc stand to make a lot of money. So they're heavily ~~bribing~~ lobbying governments to make it easier to track people
XMPP, TOR, and a few 20 4get instances will still be there. All good.
4get.ca
I can now quickly identify various birds, minecraft areas, and those weird anime plushy things no problem.
See? It even comes with a brain teaser to keep you sharp. SearXNG eat your heart out.
What do they have over Canada? why should they care?
If Signal were to make a backdoor for the government, that would compromise the security of all users world-wide.
Indeed. Although I suspect there already is a back door for the US government, just not one anyone knows about.