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submitted 11 months ago by reddig33@lemmy.world to c/evs@lemmy.world

Been thinking about how EV trucks seem to get more range than cars/SUVs. Is this because of the surface area of the vehicle compared to the weight (with an empty truck bed)? Would an unloaded EV El Camino theoretically get better “mileage” than something like a Bolt?

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[-] roomboy@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Biggest thing is the size allows for a much bigger battery; which means more capacity.

[-] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

El Caminos never went out of style in Aus. They call them Utes, short for utility vehicles - They're pretty rad

[-] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Oh, man! I wouldn't even care if the range were the same as a sedan. El Caminos are cool! I mean, the front is like a car, the back is like a truck!

[-] woobie@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

The El Camino is the mullet of the auto industry. Also, the Ford Ranchero, and all of those sweet Aussie Utes like the Holden.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

The new Kia Ute is basically that

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

First and foremost it is the mass that defines the range of an EV, closely followed by the aero drag efficiency. Rolling resistance and transmission losses are pretty minor. A mindful driver who doesn't race up to red lights and doesn't mind getting hot on a hot day and cold on a cold day will increase the range by reducing HVAC load. The type of terrain and ambient temperature are factors. I would be surprised if something as inefficient as a truck gets anywhere close to a sedan.

[-] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

AFAIK EV pickups lag in efficiency but make up for it in sheer battery pack size. The F-150 Lightning gets 2 miles/kWh (cruising I believe) while a Bolt is probably around 3-4 so be sure to double-check the range compared to the usable capacity ratings on their batteries!

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

The longest range EVs are actually large sedans with huge batteries, see the model s plaid and lucid air (400 mile range).

[-] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

You're confusing mileage and range. Range is a function of the vehicle's energy capacity, whether it be fuel or electricity, whereas mileage relates the energy expended by the vehicle to travel a certain distance.

It might be correct to say an F150 has better range than a Corolla (which might not even be true), just because the F150 has a much larger fuel tank. But, as is obvious, the fuel an F150 expends to travel a certain distance is much larger than that expended by the Corolla, or you'd say the Corolla gets better mileage than the F150.

It's the same in EVs. Simply, an F150 Lightning has a higher capacity battery (fuel tank) than a Bolt, but the 'mileage' of the Lightning is much worse than the Bolt.

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