I would sooner at this point buy an iPhone than a Samsung with all the joys of Google's AI nonsense and the "privilege" of Samsung's invasive anti-privacy clauses and shitty preloaded apps. Yes I can remove them - I shouldn't have to in the first place. I would GrapheneOS if my work situation and app needs would allow but alas they do not so the choices are becoming difficult. This one? Not so much.
this post was submitted on 23 Jun 2026
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Google's AI is in your next iphone, congrats
I haven't bought anything yet but in an iPhone I can turn that shit off. GrapheneOS is the way but OOBE Android is far more invasive than an iPhone. I like my AI dumb and turned off.
At this point the only phone I would be excited for would be the Motorolas with GrapheneOS. Wouldn't mind paying a little premium for them either.
same i dont even mind if the screen is shit, kust give me dual physical sim + esim and a big battery.
After experiencing the terrible security standards around eSims I crave dual physical slots like nothing else.
Apparently most carriers won't let you manage a sim via your account (because people often get them hacked and lol we're not gonna implement better policies) so instead you need to visit a store if you want it unlocked or moved to a new carrier. Which defeats the entire purpose of it being an eSIM in the first place.
what about devices that dont run on ios/android like ubuntu touch or sailfish os?
Something more libre would be ideal ofc, I'm just afraid we're more than a couple years away from those.
Linux/FOSS adoption is fine on desktop because you can always have another PC at home as backup.phones are a digital lifeline though. Most of us need a greater stability and reliability from the software in such devices, as no one wants to be carrying and charging two phones.
true. but its a chicken egg problem. no users. no software. no software. no users.
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Can those run graphene? 👀
And your next top of the line phone will be $2,000. Mid range phones are already over $500.
Cheaper phones are actually getting really good too though.
I have the OnePlus Nord N200 that was released in 2021 and i paid ~$250 for it. The Moto G 2024 actually has better benchmarks than my device does and it only costs like $130. It's only slightly better, but it's still better, and the device is three years newer. So if I were to buy that device, it would be more of a sidegrade.
Lenovo makes really shit phones though, and with potential spyware built in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo#Security_and_privacy_incidents
Oh, I never use the default operating system. I pull it out of the box and power it on and go through what setup is required to get to the home screen, open settings, enable developer options, and enable USB debugging, and then immediately flash lineage OS onto it.
I don't even buy a new phone unless it supports lineage OS because I have no desire to use default Android with Google apps and services on it.
As i'll be able to afford a next fucking phone.