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So, my last post was a complete shit show. I had no idea it would get this much attention. Not necessarily happy that it did.

First off, to the moderation team, please accept this hug from this trans bunny girl right here. Because damn it, do you deserve it. I'm so sorry for what happened, I do kind of feel responsible and I'm worried that by posting this, I'm going to make things worse.

Second, it is astounding the amount of entitlement that so many men feel. In this thread, I've seen lots of dudes being offended but what was more striking was: A bunch of guys being told about the rule, AND DOUBLING AND SOMETIMES TRIPLING DOWN!

When I wrote this post, I was thinking of adding a huge: "Please read the rules before commenting, this is a women only space" and I didn't do it, I didn't want to overstep the boundaries of the moderation. I would change that, looking back.

You know what kills me about all of this? It's that, as a transfeminine bun, the typical trans-misogynistic shit being thrown my way is that I'm just a guy disguising myself as a woman to invade "real women" spaces, to which of course, the answer always is: Guys don't need to put in this much effort to invade women spaces, they just walk in like they own the place and it's enough.

This post was yet another perfect demonstration of that. And men can't understand, they just can't, because they don't go through it, they don't know what it's like, they never even have to think about it. Women are being excluded passively all over the internet, but the second there is a women only thing, we have guys constantly trying to brigade it and to destroy it because taking all the space already isn't enough.

A woman can't express herself online without being bombarded with reply guys telling her that she's wrong, that she's exaggerating, and don't forget the usual dudes insisting that they're part of the good ones. And god forbid if you're expressing your frustration in a way that might be a bit too generalizing or angry, because of course "#NotAllMen", a guy will say proving exactly that yes, it is all men. It's not hating an entire group, it's not being misandrist, it's just drowning in misogyny and being rightfully pissed off about it, but we can't even have that.

We're never allowed to be ourselves, we're never allowed to be vulnerable as women, we're never allowed to vent or be upset at the shit that we have to endure from men all the time, we just have to take it. All because the average dude's ego is both so enormous and so fragile that he can't accept that it's not about him, or even begin to understand that he might be the problem here when he's been repeatedly told that this is not a space for him.

It's incredibly disheartening. Because when it works, I love this community, it's a safe haven on the internet. But the second we dare to talk about more than: "I love being a girl!" and go into something along the lines of: "Misogyny is crushing to deal with", things spiral out of control and we have to deal with yet another stunning example of men barging in, seemingly desperate to prove the point.

In the beginning I said this:

I'm worried that by posting this, I'm going to make things worse.

You see this? This is exactly what I'm talking about.

I didn't write it to prove a point, I wrote it because I'm genuinely worried about this. Because I have to actively be careful about what I do, what I say, what I wear, what I show, as to not attract the ire of misogyny. All the time. It's always in the back of my mind, it's a never ending anxiety. It's something that men, even the most well meaning ones, can't and will never be able to understand. I just wish they'd be able to accept it and to believe us.

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IT HAPPENED HERE AS WELL! We had a guy come in, knowing full well he was breaking the rule, but he wanted to share his "personal experience", his opinion. In other words, fucking mansplain to us why this keeps happening. He couldn't help himself, he just had to share his unsolicited opinion because he is just that important as a man. I have people asking me all the time why I only hang out with trans people and women, and it's simple: They respect my fucking boundaries!

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Hey all, I'm locking the thread because it's bringing the incel transphobe types out. Thanks for reporting comments and protecting your fellow members ❤️ 💙 💜

You shouldn't have to deal with this bullshit at all, girl. I don't get why people get so butthurt over a woman saying she's a woman. You shouldn't have to fight to prove what should be obvious.

Fuck terfs, fuck the patriarchy, support your fellow gals.

[–] Hexarei@beehaw.org 23 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Ugh, the #NotAllMen bothers me so much in a women's space too.

Like. Dude. We know! We all know that it's not all men. Nobody's trying to say that it is all men.

But it's some of them. So we hold our purses a little tighter and walk faster towards the car in the parking lot at night. So we avoid being out alone when it's dark. So we carry our self defense methods, and we stay wary.

Not because it's all men, but because it's always men.

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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well one good thing (debateably I suppose lol) happened because of it, I found out about this community. Hi ladies <3

[–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You're not the first one to reply to this thread saying this. It was so worth it, then. <3

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[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Ngl, I feel like that guy in the gif who went out for pizzas and returns to a burning house.

Haha yep! Good description

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[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] valtia@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, this is a pretty universal problem with predominantly women-only spaces that are also advertised as such. This is a recurring issue on twoxchromosomes back on reddit, and why so many of those communities end up creating splintered invite-only spaces instead. Same thing with the Tea app from a while ago.

As you said, men can't help themselves and insert themselves into these communities. In the case of invite-only spaces, unfortunately they do also try to sneak in which causes so many problems of enforcement and "proof". Public spaces are of course the most inclusive, but also attract the worst kind of men like a lighthouse

[–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It's hard to ask for proof of womanhood without instantly becoming a highly transmisogynistic space and thus, a haven for terfs, sadly. And the fact that we even have to consider that we may need proof because men can't fucking themselves is... I mean, you read the post, I'm not going to repeat myself. :(

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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's pretty simple. My mom always told me that men don't understand the word No.

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[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

as a nonbinary person afab, i wrote one comment here and then felt guilty. thanks for the clarity, i cant believe some peoples entitlement!

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hey mate! Mod here. Non binary, trans men etc are 100% welcome here ❤️

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[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Thanks for your excellent rant!

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 65 points 3 days ago

I’m so sorry for what happened ...

Honey, please never take the blame for the actions of others. The others either knew the rules or were quickly apprised of them. It was their choice, not yours, to comment where they knew they were not welcome. The blame falls on them, not on you.

This acidic sexagenarian appreciates your posts and your insights. Please don't be chased off by the assholes.

as a transfeminine bun, the typical trans-misogynistic shit being thrown my way is that I’m just a guy disguising myself as a woman to invade “real women” spaces

FWIW this acidic sexagenarian appreciates your participation here and welcomes you with open arms; you've got it worse than cis women do and deserve a safe, welcoming space, which I hope this group is for you.

We’re never allowed to be ourselves, we’re never allowed to be vulnerable as women ...

I'm done being vulnerable (there's not enough time left for me to be so), so this acidic sexagenarian will go full berserk bulldog on your behalf so you can be as vulnerable as you like. My knives (both metaphorical and literal) are for you.

It’s something that men, even the most well meaning ones, can’t and will never be able to understand.

Some genuinely do. And the reason you never hear from them is because they, you know stay out of a women-only space. So the tragedy is you only get the open misogynists, the closet misogynists, and the utterly fucking clueless in our group. (But that post you linked to? Not a single one there fell into the last group.)

My SO gets it. He's on Lemmy too. Quite an active participant. And you will never see him in this space because he understands what "women only" means. And after I go off on a rampage in a post like the one you linked to, he's there to listen patiently as I gesticulate wildly and rant angrily about fucking idiot men. Without commenting.

Unfortunately, as I said, this means we only ever see the whiny pricks and sociopathic assholes.

[–] strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 3 days ago (21 children)

It bothers me so much that they just can't keep themselves out of women-only spaces. I get major imposter syndrome (despite being on HRT, and being 99% out), and then actual men break the rule. It makes me feel... I'm not sure. It's upsetting, that's for sure.

I'd once again like to acknowledge, and appologise for the fact, that I made a... not-so-great comment, which caused a fair amount of trouble.

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