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just realized whoogle is dead now (lemmy.today)
submitted 8 hours ago by hexagonwin@lemmy.today to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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google search results are still kind of useful especially for non-english language queries, anyone knows a good alternative?

searxng also doesn't really seem to work these days..

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[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 points 53 minutes ago
  • Yacy
  • SearxNG
  • Degoog!

Are about the only selfhosted ones I know of. I run SearxNG and have a good deal of success with it. It does bork image searches sometimes and tosses in these lithograph artworks, which are quite interesting to me, but don't help in the search itself. In as much as it will draw the ire of some, AI makes a pretty good search engine if you are searching for really specific things like: List all Blues artists that were active in 1942 in Memphis. Give resource links.

[–] thenikraj@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 hours ago

The modern internet is getting filthier by the day. Gone are the days where independent software used to be a thing I suppose.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

isn't ddg basically google?

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

ddg gets results from bing, startpage is the one that gets results from google

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 2 hours ago

yeah its hard to keep track who the sugar daddies are with some of these things.

[–] thestrike@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Degoog! https://github.com/degoog-org/degoog

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

looks neat, will look into it. tysm!

[–] japemasterBrad@programming.dev 5 points 3 hours ago

I run SearXNG and haven't looked back honestly, could never get on with Whoogle's UI

[–] dial_pootis@lemmy.world 30 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Duckduckgo is surprisingly okay, even with non-english queries by using the region selector (your experience may vary)

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 13 points 7 hours ago

ddg is my primary right now, it absolutely sucks for korean queries sadly

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

https://startpage.com/

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

kinda works, but their results are a bit crippled compared to google (also, no way to search specific timeframe)

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

?

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ah, you mean a custom timeframe. Like where you pick your own dates.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago

yeah, i search with 'before 2023' to filter AI slop often

[–] otterpop@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This might be one of those things where self hosting isn't worth the pain, like email.

I've been using Kagi for several years now and have been very happy with it.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Nah, fuck Kagi.

They are literally giving part of your subscription fee to fucking Russia. In comparison, DuckDuckGo have ended their partnership with Yandex. Vlads refusal to follow suit and his steadfast support of Yandex is quite telling to say the least.

Yet another part of your subscription goes to Elon Musks xAI to support Grok in their AI assistant. Even if you are not using that model, all paying users are effectively subsidizing the cost of the Grok API calls. You can't opt out of that.

[–] beegnyoshi@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Man, I used kagi for 2 months or so and stopped subscribing after that because while there wasn't really anything that I'd seen that'd make me outright unsubscribe there were many things that I found odd and it didn't make sense to pay so much for a product that I didn't agree with all that much. For instance:

I was unable to remove yandex from my search because:

what makes it difficult to act on this is that Kagi does not save searches as a matter of privacy policy, and including more moving parts would make debugging search quality issues nearly impossible

Despite having so many AI features that barely fit into a search engine, such as a translator (slop frontend) and an entire browser?

It called itself "unprofitable" because search is so expensive while giving an honestly insane quota of AI use as far as I can understand (ex. if user pays 10$ for the kagi subscription: 10$ - 20% worth of tokens = 8$ total quota), giving 100 free searches with, as far as I could see, very little protection against burner emails (the translator seems to not need an account at all and it's an llm frontend, so it shouldn't be cheap), and it had many different views in many different places from me.

But all that made me do was hmmm and shrug it off. I mean, we're different humans from different backgrounds, of course we'd hold different views.

But holy shit. Hoooooooly shit. That conversation about the GDPR in the article. What the fuck. What in the actual fuck did I just read there. The fact that the CEO emailed him an explanation despite him explicitly asking to not be emailed too. Bruh.

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 hours ago

Searxng has been pretty sweet, been hosting my own for about a year and some change with pretty good results.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 5 points 6 hours ago

I like SearXNG,brave search and mojeek. I understand the controversies with Brave but it's the only good one I can find.

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's unfortunate, but not surprising. Luckily, the world works without google.

Get SearxNG and you'll never need another search engine.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

bruh i literally mentioned in the post that SearXNG isn't working properly

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Damn I must've overread that. But how isn't it working? I have a private instance and it has been working without problems apart from connecting to brave, which is rate limiting me immediately. And there's so many sites to choose as potential providers, losing a few to rate limits honestly doesn't seem like a big deal.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

google (and few other engines) keep giving me errors, and search results mostly empty due to timeouts (or even with no error, there's just only few results that are completely unrelated to the query)

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Kagi.

Searxng too much effort.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

KagI is pretty good in various languages.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

Kagi is still $10+tax a month. That's $120 a year (plus tax).

SearXNG is $0 and a few minutes of my time whenever I tweak the configuration.

[–] negativenull@piefed.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I just gave up on searxng too.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't even make it an entire day of searxng, front the literally fist search I tried I was getting blocked haha

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No problems with my SearXNG here at all (just have to look into Qwant):

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

is this on a residential IP? are you running vanilla options or any api tokens?

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

They should use Fable to find hacks that work