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[-] wantd2B1ofthestrokes@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean, didn’t we pretty much already know the theory of gravity was incomplete? Hence dark matter / dark energy.

Edit: ok I see the article is much about the competing theories. I guess that’s why I shouldn’t react to headlines…

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 8 points 11 months ago

“SCIENTIST FEAR KILLER AStEROID HEADING TO EARTH headline might be different than the article”

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

No. MOND will never be the explanation. Its just not capable of explaining what its supporters claim that it can.

[-] SuperJetShoes@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I'm not a physicist (read "couldn't do the maths“) but MOND feels closer to an natural, organic explanation than Dark Matter. Are there planets formed from Dark Matter? Are there elements and dark molecular structures?

Please can I have a motorcycle made of it?

[-] ElectroNeutrino@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

There's a few other things that dark matter explains which MOND doesn't, such as the relative abundances of the light elements and galaxies with seemingly no dark matter present.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

One of the things with dark matter (specifically WIMPs, Weakly Interacting Massive Particles) is that they don't seem to interact with any force other than gravity. This means they can shed momentum, by interacting with each other, or normal matter. In order for a dense object to form from a cloud, the cloud, as a whole, must shed, or cancel out the momentum of the particles involved. WIMPs would not be able to do this via anything other than gravity. This limits their collapse to around galaxy scale.

In short WIMPs can't form anything more complex than an incredibly diffuse inert gas cloud. We can only detect those clouds on a galactic scale, via their gravity effect.

[-] SuperJetShoes@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Damn. So no totally dark motorcycle then. Ah well

[-] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

WIMP is such a great acronym for those lol

[-] brianorca@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

One of the recent theories I've heard is that dark matter is made of particles with a wavelength measured in light-years. They can't be localized to something as small as a star system, much less a planet.

[-] GenesisJones@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That's a really cool idea I haven't heard before. I like it.

[-] brianorca@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] GenesisJones@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Thank you I'll be watching that haha

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Are there planets formed from Dark Matter?

Last time I looked, planets didn't glow.

They are just not numerous enough to explain all the things dark matter is supposed to explain.

[-] SuperJetShoes@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Good point.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I find that fascinating, picturing a bunch of astrophysicists staying up late smoking pot, while rooting for the underdog theory…. Plus if true, that would make physics even weirder

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