Teslas build quality has been hit or miss since they came on the market.

I will always respect them for showing people that electric cars can be viable and fun. But nowadays, I would never bring myself to buy one knowing that some of the profit is going towards that fucking imbicile who owns twitter.

While I'm not looking to get a new car rn. Down the road I'd like to consider something like a Toyota BZ4X. The first gen has a few issues that need to be ironed out. But a few years from now, I reckon itl be a great option

That or something like it from Honda. Those two brands are who I trust most in terms of reliablity and build quality if I'm going to make an investment in a new kind of car, I want it to be them.

Don't really understand the energy spent on this matter. Just vote with your wallet. Don't like Tesla? Awesome. Don't buy one. Like them? Go ahead.

People are allowed to like and dislike things and not everything is run on a manichean paradigm of extreme hyperbole where things are absolute shit or the best thing that's ever happened.

A Tesla seems, objectively, like an okay car that's fun but usually comes with drawbacks and QA issues. Some will be more enthused by the latest gadget. Some wont.

Then after that, Musk as a public figure, the bro hype, stupid dodgecoin memes, etc... All of that is just noise.

I actually would have wanted to get a Tesla and had been eyeing them for a bit when I knew relatively little about Musk. Since he showed the world what a toolshed he was and can't stop opening his stupid mouth... I won't do anything to support Musk at all, I'll never buy a Tesla with him around. I'd still want to go all electric, but just waiting for something relatively affordable and dependable to present itself.

I don't purchase things or make investments based on CEOs. The history of automaker CEOs is quite ugly. I also use Amazon, and Bezos is also a tremendously evil "tool." Just because a CEO is dumb enough to be loud-stupid in ways that are accessible to the public doesn't make them worse/better in my eyes.

Tesla as a company has great engineers, they've basically built a tremendous drivetrain on an incredible car frame, and they don't care at all about the interior fit and finish. Emphasizing Elon over the engineers that put those cars together is a disservice to the hard work of the people actually doing the work.

Teslas are some of the safest cars on the road. They're an engineers car: all the work is in the parts you can't see. You can hate Elon all you want, but if their safety record continues to be as stellar as it has been, I'll probably buy a Model Y in the next couple of years. Not because I love or hate Elon--he doesn't enter into the equation when I'm thinking about the safety of my family--but because the engineers at Tesla have designed a very safe electric car.

If all you look at are the loudest articles, the most repugnant tweets, have at. I'm looking for a car that, per mile, provides safe transportation. When it comes to electric cars (or any car, really), Tesla has consistently been at the top.

Honestly the car industry as a whole is whack, not just Tesla.

Most manufacturers would screw over their customers as well as the planet if it means a bigger profit.

my favorite tesla fact is that the ass ends of the car are only held on with double sided tape and fall off cause they are so poorly designed that they fill with water when driving in the rain.

It’s really interesting how musk has completely trashed his reputation over the past idk 3 years or so. I wonder if he’ll eventually be kicked out of Tesla. The brand has gone from aspirational to a sort of weird tech-bro joke. The huge advantage Tesla still has is in their charging network which is still miles better than anything else, unless you live in norway. With other pretty major manufacturers signing on to support the Tesla Charing standard (cockily named NACS) we’ll see where the industry ends up. Wonder if Tesla is thinking of transitioning from a car manufacturer to a charger enjoyer.

Op sounds like a douche tho.

I love my Leaf. Only 129 miles for range and can take longer than 12 hours to charge in my garage but not having bought gas for almost 5 years has been great and it's a joy to drive an electric car. I compared the Leaf to the Tesla Model 3 at the time and could find no reasons that the Leaf wasn't a better use of my money. Tesla electric cars seem like more of a status symbol than an environmental or economic decision in today's EV market.

I've never once bought or not bought a product because of who the CEO is. I'm definitely not going to start now.

Tesla's are very dangerous: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/10/tesla-autopilot-crashes-elon-musk/

Don't put your life and the life of those around you at risk by driving a Tesla

"Fuck you for trying to buy a car that you might enjoy, now get back to the shitty car companies who have a monopoly on the automotive business."

Like seriously, Hate Elon all you want, but no we haven't known "for years" and you claims on "safety items" seems dubious at best. But more importantly people wanted a specific car. If you buy it specifically because of Elon, ok, but most people just want the best car, and pretending the automotive industry isn't filled with the absolute worst of humanity (Far worse than Elon, just not public facing enough)... like you're kidding yourself bud.

If you’ve bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you’re a damn goober in my eyes. That’s my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter.

Here's my hot take, I really don't give a shit what you think, and I'm saying this as a non-Tesla owner. It's not about you being poor, or any other salty, you're a pure asshole (let me guess BMW driver). You belittle others who "opinions don't matter" but I'm really struggling why does anyone care what you think at that rate?

And no this being "Unpopular" isn't good enough this is just a shitty argument. This is OP just being argumentative and insulting.

Hell the "Elaine" joke should offend those who propose to care about gendered insults, but I suppose that will be accepted because "Bad man deserved it" or something. Do the same to Elliot Page, and you'd be crucified though.

Musk has lost a lot of respect over the years and that's continuing in the same trajectory. I always sensed he wasn't being honest and I guess he kind of is being more himself.

Tesla is way over priced than what it's actually worth to build the vehicles, this is based on what they've said themselves. The fact is it's in so much demand that as usual when that happens the price increases. Other companies just need to make the jump to EV vehicles for Tesla's to need to lower prices or improve even more, but your post reeks of some other reasoning to why you're posting this.

agreed, but people still support amazon & apple like they're the next coming of christ. there are no ethical corporations under capitalism

get a jeep tire rotation at dealer service and they add unscheduled brake maintenance not covered under warranty. $900. Tesla checked wear in my driveway and said it wasn't needed. $0.00

I opted for a Chevy Bolt instead of a Tesla, primarily because of the cost being lower. Secondarily it was because Musk is a dipshit.