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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Chewget@lemm.ee to c/lasercutting@lemm.ee

I've been trying to figure out the peak power demands and an uninterruptible power supply that can handle it. There doesn’t seem to be any documentation for this. It just needs to run long enough to power off safely. It's a Trotec speedy 360. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Edit 360 not 400 and it's an 80W laser

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[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You need a UPS that meets your wattage requirements for the amount of time you want to keep things on in the event of a loss of power.

Without the amount of time it's impossible to give any recommendations.

Here's a calculator to help you get your answer

Keep in mind that the wattage the laser is rated for might be lower than the total power draw of the system, so I'd get a watt meter and monitor your peak watts.

[-] Chewget@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Thank you! I'm definitely a newbie, does a 120w CO2 laser only draw 120w?

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I would go off it the max wattage of the power supply the whole system uses instead of what the laser says.

That will have you covered for peak draw over the entire duration you're looking for, and will likely end up giving you a lot of wiggle room time wise.

I know almost nothing about laser engravers, but many of them are mechanically similar to 3D printers, which I do know a lot about, and stepper motors can suck down a lot of power.

[-] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

120w laser will draw 3100W per hour, not 120W.the 120W refers only to the effective output power of the actual optic laser itself, not the power consumption of the lazing equipment, electronics controller(s), inverters, stepper drivers, etc. (see image 1)

The only question left is what duration of backup power you want? There's a big difference in between 5 minutes of laser power and 3 hours of laser power.

If you want 2 hours of backup power, you need a 6200 Watt-Hour UPS with 208/230Vac output, single phase, capable of delivering ~16 amps.

We use the following website at work. Among other things, we develop backup power solutions for critical infrastructure life safety systems;

Www.sizemyups.com

The Eaton website linked elsewhere in another comment is also a great website/company.

Image snip above was sourced from your user manual, I've uploaded a copy here:

https://pdfhost.io/v/.YdPy6VXQ_Titel

[-] Chewget@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I found that section in my manual for the Speedy 360 it shows power consumption at 1400W for the 80W laser version. There quite a few options for ups using those two search links provided above.

Thank you for your help!

Page 33 Speedy 360 manual

[-] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

More directly answered, most CO2 lasers are rated in optical output power. There are a lot of inefficiencies before that, so e.g. the 85% efficient power supply, the (wild-ass-guess) 40% efficient laser, then you have other electrical loads like probably at least a dozen watts of fans, substantial power for motors, lights, controllers, air pumps if you have one...

I would expect a "120w" CO2 laser to have peak power consumption of at least 500w. You can use a kill-a-watt to check out the actual consumption while cutting, frankly I'd probably go with a 750-1200 kVA ups just for substantial fudge-factor.

Curious if you've already bought the UPS and if so how it's gone?

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