Brand new, out of the box. It's been sitting here at 100% for 5 minutes.
My other favorite is when they add Edge to my desktop periodically
Oh, and the one time they put a fucking arrow on my wallpaper pointing at Edge. That’s what finally convinced me to make it my default browser
what how?
Lmao the absolute gall of them
That is absolutely lunacy that they did that
I don't know where or what version of Windows this is but I administer a shit ton of windows devices and have never seen this. Wondering if this is a home edition or some version of OEM.
Interestingly enough, it didn’t happen on my work PC. My work PC has had other shenanigans tho (weather and news apps adding themselves to my task bar)
I don’t remember if the arrow happened to me while I was on 10, I have since upgraded to 11, but I do have the pro version. It was a few years ago
Looking into it now, they seem to have a separate pro license for “workstations” marketed at businesses, that may have something to do with it?
The Enterprise SKU I don't believe has that added.
We have to rely on the prep version mostly, which has the shenanigans. Fortunately, you can turn those things off after the fact.
What we are fighting with now is trying to deploy an image without the advertised apps, but since they are provided by the CDN, which cannot be disabled (yet).
i feel like the meeting went like that:
exec: “why is no one using it?”
dev: “shit browser, same tech as chrome”
exec: “ok? how can we increase usage ffs?”
dev: “lol, dunno, giant white arrow pointing at the icon?”
exec: “ship it tomorrow “
Can you unpin Edge from the taskbar? That should get rid of the arrow. Or maybe the next windows update would bring it back.
Oh, yeah that was the solution lol. It’s more the fact that they took the liberty of pinning it there for me, and then drew the arrow over my screen. The sheer audacity of it all
You're right, it's absurd. They should be ashamed.
Or "let's finish setting up your PC" full screen on a 4 year old system. Then you click through just to find the only options are 1) share more data with Microsoft, or 2) make Edge your default browser. The day I find a decent note taking tablet running Linux, windows is dead to me.
The best part is still too come, clicking through the 10 or so questions, where the preselected option is the always the bad one regarding privacy, and the "good" one is a compromise at best.
"Install Cortana?"
Please tell me you're kidding, I haven't touched windows in years lol.
Nope just updated the other day and it requires you answer those questions all the time. They even require a MS account now
That can be circumvented, luckily. When setting up the computer, hit shift+F10 and type in: OOBE\BYPASSNRO That will restart the computer, and it is now possible to create a local account. Why they would make it so difficult is hard to fathom, besides datamining it's userbase and profit... oh wait, I got it now.
Just disconnect the internet connection before you start setup 👍
Can confirm this still worked for me as off two month ago.
Or make the installer with Rufus. It has the option to disable all those questions.
It's horrifying what data harvesting engines most OSs have become. I remember being so outraged when I learned that Ubuntu's default MOTD phones home with a couple of pieces of hardware info that I switched distros (the ever growing use of snaps was also a factor). Windows seems like it needs a complete medical history just to "offer" a sign in prompt.
When the MOTD became just advertisements was enough for me. I get that it's all within the ecosystem, but my terminal is not a space for you to advertise...
One of our customers has a Lenovo with an i7 10th gen and 16gb of memory. Booting up takes about 5 minutes on an NVMe drive and using our application, based on Microsoft Access, takes literal years to save an entry.
Windows can fucking die in a hotel fire.
Are hotel fires worse than other fires?
They’re pay-per-view.
That's weird. My one boots up quicker than it shuts down.
Also why are you using Microsoft access hehe
Also why are you using Microsoft access hehe.
This is the real question
I have an E495 with an SATA SSD, a cheap one at that, and it takes Arch (btw) about 5 seconds to get to SDDM login and about 7 seconds from login to usable Plasma desktop.
Try that with Win11.
I used a VM to install Windows 10 the other day and the installation process alone was enough to remind me why Windows 10 will be my last Windows, Navigating 20 questions then having to uninstall about 30 apps some of which will reinstall at next update, Infuriating tbh. I seem to have settled with Mint Cinnamon, It's been working perfectly.
Linuxmint cinnamon ftw
I prefer using Linux because I can customize my desktop without having to install a dozen different 3rd-party apps.
My last laptop didn't even have an initial boot for Windows. I booted on a Ventoy stick and had a Manjaro install on it from the very beginning.
Life's to short to fuck around with Windows.
God, I just did the set up new laptop process on Sunday; I completely forgot how insanely long everything takes to set up, update, configure, etc. Linux SBC, maybe an hour end to end; install, update, all my configs neatly in a file, ready to be copied over. Regular Linux: two hours end to end at most. You just do not appreciate the beauty of apt update/apt install quite as much as the moment you are confronted with a new Windows install.
Windows? Pretty much most of Sunday afternoon and evening. First the Dell updates, then the driver updates, then the pre-installed program updates, then the Windows updates (though not in that order and not all at once, because predictability what is that). Then I could actually start adding my programs and configuring it, and oh boy.
Just my base configuration for Office--that being each individual program in the suite, God knows--required a hunting expedition and a lot of googling to track everything down in multiple locations and I still had to do a lot of it manually; putty and kitty required copying bits of the registry; calibre I gave up as it was less work to do it myself from memory; firefox was the only thing I could just copy and paste a folder and be entirely done. That part was nice. Every other program I needed I had to track down and install separately then hunt up configs in multiple locations and Windows kept interrupting the process because oh, we forgot, here's more updates and one to three restarts. Why?
And Windows 11's start menu is just insulting; talk about salt in the wound.
You're on "Microsoft time". 100% in "Microsoft time" does not mean complete. 100% means you're in a time loop that will never end. RIP OP
5 minutes is about as long as it took to download that mammoth 2MB jpg from this struggling Lemmy server.
Seriously though, I can download an ISO, flash it to USB, boot up and do an entire system install in less than 15 minutes. The only limiting factor is the speed of the internet.
You can do the same for a modded windows install. Depending on hardware ofcourse.
Only thing is with Linux I could do it on my pi with a crappy SD card instead of a full desktop with decent CPU and a good nvme.
I do wish I could hit a key chord or something to show a terminal of what is happening under the hood with Windows...
Honestly one of the biggest reasons I can't go back to Windows.
Something breaks? Here's a cryptic error message, your options are google and hope someone knows a registry hack, or just deal with it and let daddy microsoft dictate your computing experience.
Linux? Here's an error message, error code, logs upon logs, crash dump, forum of people who can help, and stack trace...
Not to be a downer here, but after a couple minutes I just hold the power button down and make it go to sleep. Linux has given me similar issues too and I also hold its power button down. My bigger reason for switching is all the privacy invasive stuff and bloat.
Edit: Is that a T14? Good choice
Windows has a tendency to no longer boot when updates or whatever it's doing is interrupted.
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