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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by tun@lemm.ee to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world

Nobara OS, Arch Linux and Pop!_OS beat Windows 11 by a slim margin in fps (delta 8) in Windows native games - Cyberpunk 2077, Forspoken, Starfield and The Talos Principle II. Windows 11 wins in Rachet & Clank.

ComputerBase's testing was done on an all-AMD test rig, featuring a Ryzen 7 5800X (non-3D) and a Radeon RX 6700 XT.

Update: Windows 11 wins in one game.

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[-] Carol2852@discuss.tchncs.de 80 points 1 year ago

Soooo when did Arch become a gaming focused OS?

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago
[-] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Pretty much this.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 year ago

Is arch really gaming focused though?

[-] lea@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago

Arch is focused on being cutting-edge and lightweight which happens to be perfect for gaming performance in most cases but that's all.

[-] p5f20w18k@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Arch is focused on however you put it together

[-] oo1@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Arch is focused like the same way a beach is a camera lens.

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 19 points 1 year ago

SteamOS is based on Arch, likely why they picked it.

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

shrug, I've been using arch and Manjaro for years and gaming in them. They are what you make them, and AUR is massive and solves a lot of problems I have in other distros so that's why I use it.

[-] pe1uca@lemmy.pe1uca.dev 36 points 1 year ago

I recently switched to ubuntu in a gaming laptop, right now I've been using it just for jellyfin and some other coding tasks, but it definitely runs smoother, more stable, quicker, and cooler than windows did for the same workload.
I was surprised at the difference of even just having the machine idle, on windows it was noticeable warm, now on ubuntu it's almost as if it has been turned off.

[-] thantik@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly, at this point -- If Valve made a more generalized Linux OS... or even at the very least started making honest proposals at unifying how the OS ran, so that their efforts in getting gaming to work on it could be more widely productive; we could see a radical shift in adoption.

Now now, I'm not saying YEAR OF LINUX ON THE DESKTOP!! - but Valve would be a great mother for fostering an ecosystem that would potentially make Microsoft compete by not making their OS shittier year-by-year.

[-] entropicdrift 21 points 1 year ago

If Valve made a Linux OS... or even at the very least started making honest proposals at unifying how the OS ran, so that their efforts in getting gaming to work on it could be more widely productive; we could see a radical shift in adoption.

Sorry, does SteamOS 3 not count? Is Valve's massive investment in Mesa, Wine, Wayland (HDR, Gamescope, etc) not exactly what you're talking about? I feel like we're living in parallel dimensions or something lol

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Steam deck was definitely a move in this direction. From what I hear people like it. If they like it, I see more traction to it as people understand that it's not windows. Ya never know. 2035: year of the Linux desktop!

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[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

Computerbase is very solid and well known in Germany and have been covering Linux quite a bit for a while now.
Performance of course can fluctuate heavily between games but the amount of progress that Linux made over the past decade is nothing but astonishing.

[-] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

that's kind of my take on it too. Linux has come so far from what it used to be like. it's not quite ready to see mass-adoption, but it's making some amazing strides. so many different parties have been contributing to a massive effort to iron out some of the issues with Linux. once performance improves significantly over Windows, and compatibility gets a little more wide-spread, you'll start to see people willing to put up with the teething problems, in the name of superior performance.

THAT is when Linux will see more mainstream success.

some year, i don't know when, really will be the year of Linux.... maybe.

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 23 points 1 year ago

Description is false. Windows won in R&C. This was not an across the board win for Linux. Good news doesn't need to be sensationalized.

[-] tun@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Updated the summary about Windows winning.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Ok, but what about Nvidia GPUs? Those are what the the vast majority of gamers use.

[-] Cycloprolene@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[-] limitedduck@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

Nvidia has been kind of a mess for me on Wayland, especially the lastest 545 drivers. I just switched to AMD and literally all my issues disappeared, including one I thought was a KDE plasma bug

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago

Assuming this is the usual case where most games are within noise of each other, the ones that don't run under linux are excluded, and nobody acknowledges that the need to precache/predownload shaders provides short term benefits.

Its like people miss the good old days of "This is the year of linux gaming. Everything works and is perfect. Okay, those games don't work. But every game I care about works. Except the ones that don't". Like, we really are in a golden age of gaming parity but pretending there isn't still work to be done serves no benefit.

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[-] iopq@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

These tech YouTubers should do Linux comparisons. These are not small differences when comparing, let's say, Nvidia 4060 and the RX 7600. It could make the AMD GPU edge out the more expensive Nvidia offering

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[-] icdl@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I've been using arch and manjaro for the past 3 years with awesomewm and gnome (can't get awesomewm to behave with second monitor while gaming so I switch to gnome when using the second monitor, using laptop) and this has pretty much been my experience. Windows is bloated and it never"just works".

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Windows almost always just works.

This seems crazy to say when talking about Linux. Especially when saying you have to switch to use dual monitors.

[-] Neomega@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I have to agree. I love Linux but Windows really does just work. Especially when it comes to gaming. I applaud anyone that enjoys Linux gaming but don't act like it's anywhere near as simple as on windows.

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[-] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah. In all the time I’ve been using windows I never had a problem that people constantly report; even BSOD happened quite rarely. I never got my pc to randomly shut down and update either…

Like, I switched to Linux cause i saw it as cool, wanted to try it out and liked how customisable it was and mostly to spite the megacorp

[-] TwanHE@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Honestly since windows 10 the only blue screens I've gotten are due to my own doing.

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[-] 7u5k3n@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That's when we know it's:

The year of the Linux desktop

When we all can finally run crysis.

[-] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'm not familiar with the games mentioned in the article, but Linux is great for gaming. I run Manjaro on my T540p laptop and have never had problems with Angband or Nethack. I can even run DF with tilesets if I'm feeling spunky. Mind you, I do have 8 gbs of RAM and a pretty sweet Intel integrated graphics setup, so that may be why it's so smooth.

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[-] snownyte@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

slim margin isn't significant enough.

I want bigger margins.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago

Still very impressive considering this is all run by translating the same Windows API calls into Linux ones, and then running them. There's definitely some overhead in doing this, and yet they still beat Windows native.

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[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Doesn't matter. Easy of use + compatibility trumps all.

[-] tun@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Some people already using Linux as daily driver and booting to windows is not ease for them.

People doesn't need every games to be compatible. They only need the games they want to play compatible.

For me, I no longer need to boot into windows to play game.

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