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[–] vistencluse@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

trick question, the hotel is infinite, so you can move guest 1 to room 2, guest 2 to room 3 and so on and have room 1 leftover for Sisyphus and his boulder, therefore he is indeed happy

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not entirely true.

There are conditions where an infinite hotel can "run out" of rooms. Veritasium has a great video on this. Here's the link because there's no earthly way a dumbass like me can explain it intelligibly with just words.

https://youtu.be/OxGsU8oIWjY?t=194

[–] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago

This would be the case if we tried to fit an uncountable infinity into the hotel. But there is only one Sisyphos and one boulder, so we can use the above trick

[–] brad@toad.work 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

God damn this is a powerhouse of a meme

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] vaseltarp@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Sisyphus is happy. Instead of rolling that boring stone he can now go from room to room in the hotel and ask the guests to move on room.

[–] Froyn@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

This is a riddle of either a very good or very bad DM.

[–] dona1dquixote@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar with the Grand Hilbert Hotel. What is this a reference to?

[–] crystenn@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

iirc correctly it's a thought experiment where you have a hotel with an infinite number of rooms, full with an infinite number of guests. a bus comes along with an infinite number of guests, can the hotel accommodate them? the answer is always yes and simply depends on how you move the current guests around in the hotel. it gets pretty convoluted so check out the link for more info bc god knows i wouldn't be able to relay it accurately

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] crystenn@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

rip in peace (brain fart moment lmao)

[–] whileloop@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's exactly right. Technically, the meme is incorrect though because the hotel can accommodate Sisyphus by simply asking everyone to move to the next room. The person in room x moves to room x+1.

[–] MothBookkeeper@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It said "may not," not "can not." The hotel may choose not to move everyone to a new room.

[–] whileloop@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You make a good point. Asking all guests to move in order to make room for one guy and a big rock seems a bit unreasonable.

[–] Skiv@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

You might be surprised how motivating a man with a big rock can be.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The answer isn't always a yes.

There are conditions where the Hilbert hotel can "run out" of rooms.

Veritasium has a great video on this

https://youtu.be/OxGsU8oIWjY?t=194

[–] roon@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wasn't there a vsauce video about this?

Edit: https://youtu.be/s86-Z-CbaHA?t=6m47s

[–] Kor@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sisyphos is an educated man as he is son of Aiolos and king of Corinth. So long as he accepts that there is nothing more to life than his absurd struggle, then he can find happiness in it, says Camus. He may be the ideal absurd hero, as his punishment is representative of the human condition: Sisyphus must struggle perpetually and without hope of success.

I think he happy no matter where he ends up :)

[–] raspberry_confetti@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

...no matter where he ends up :)

Stuck in middle management

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago
[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

The answer lies within the chinese room, surely.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Hell yeah wouldn't you be?

[–] nomoreheadphonejac@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I was pondering this longer than i should