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i love centralized social networks... (lemm.ee)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by FarLine99@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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about mastodon. i love centralized social networks because you can search for any post, regardless of the date of its creation, any person, any community. in mastodon, however, this does not work.

when you register on a small instance, people's profiles are empty, there are no posts, hashtags do not work.

if you register on a medium-sized instance, it's already better, but there are still people who are not subscribed to from someone from your instance and their profiles are empty, and even if someone is subscribed, only posts which are shown are ones that were created after the subscription of person from your instance, older are not, and the person may have been maintaining this account for a lot longer, post history preservation is broken. hashtags are already available, but still not all of them, because not all posts are available too (hashtags work like a filter for post).

if you register on a large instance, small ones will defederate from you and you will see neither their hashtags, nor interesting people, nor their posts.

there is a feeling of distortion of reality, which is a nasty feeling in itself.

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[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago

Well I don't.

Have a nice day

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee -2 points 7 months ago

❤️

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 7 months ago

[+] FarLine99@lemm.ee -6 points 7 months ago

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

you cant walk into a brand new thing and expect a mature feature set. it makes you sound like a coked up 12 year old.

everything youre complaining about are known quantities/features in the works in this brand new, still wet behind the ears protocol.

also; formatting. use some.

[-] dameoutlaw@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

It’s not brand new. Mastodon is nearly 8 years old and ActivityPub 5-6 years old. It’s still early but I wouldn’t call it brand new

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 7 months ago

theres also the idea that age to maturity is irrelevant if the protocol is shit. ie, smtp

so it would take devs longer to account for the shitty protocol.

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

if I was complaining about the lack of a post translation button - yes, that's about features. emojies - same. but I'm talking about the architecture of the federation, the foundations on which the social network is built. and it seems to me that the pillars on which mastodon stands have big cracks. for example, the problem with profile post history was written back in '16 on GitHub, but nothing was ever done. there are good people there - the only reason why I'm there.

[-] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago

You know why the problem with profile post history has been fixed? Because Mastodon is not a company for profit it is a free and open source. If you want the problem to be fixed learn how to code and submit the fix , donate so they can hire more people or stop complaining about this. Contribute and make this place better.

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

would love to help financially, but fing politics interferes. Russia. foreign cards/transfers are blocked and very high dollar exchange rate.

[-] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

Oh shit , well be safe my friend! Good luck

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

❤️

even though Ukrainians need safety way more, i hate politics

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

i love centralized social networks

Then use them.

Next obvious thing you need patiently explained…

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee -4 points 7 months ago

i know about the problems of centralized social networks and do not idealize them, not in any case. i'm talking about this particular aspect that I like

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

So use them. I don't know where the communication breakdown is here. You like centralized social networks. USE THEM THEN. I can't see why this is so confusing to you.

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

I like one particular aspect of centralization, in everything else they are flying into the abyss, why am I chatting with you here and not on Reddit, you think, eh?)

[-] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago

You didn't discover the potential of open social networks yet, and you admire walled gardens because of that. You will not actually need global search inside a fediverse app, because with Fediverse's open architecture you will be eventually able to search any post on fedi (for Mastodon, only for consenting accounts, though) simply via an Internet search engine!

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

truly hope it becomes a reality soon ❤️

[-] cerevant@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

No, you are disappointed that Mastadon doesn’t have the same feature set as Twitter. The fact that you can search off instance at all is impressive. What you are asking for is like saying you should find GM cars in Ford’s search bar. Each instance is its own website. Search engines are designed to do what you want, and as Mastadon grows in popularity, it’s search results will become more prominent.

[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Aggregators will come out eventually too

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee -2 points 7 months ago

so I think that such an interaction between instances is now broken and requires reorganization

[-] cerevant@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I’m not talking about interactions between instances, I’m talking about Google and Bing indexing Mastadon. That’s who we should be using for search.

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

hopefully this kind of search will work well over time ❤️🙂

[-] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

Ok bye! :)

[-] top@top.ofthe.top 2 points 7 months ago

> when you register on a small instance, people’s profiles are empty, there are no posts, hashtags do not work.

Not a big problem for me, I just go to big instances like mastodon.social and find content or people I'd like interact with. Being registered on some instance doesn't mean you shouldn't visit other instances.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Weird hill to die on but ok. If you want to see past posts, you can just go to the users' instance and browse their instance. You don't have to view it from your own.

I think jumping into the fediverse requires rethinking the paradigm of how you use social media.

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

sounds more like a crutch.)

I agree, but I have a feeling that the new approach will have more cons than pros in convenience

this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2023

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