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[-] Lexam@lemmy.ca 77 points 2 years ago

I would love to create a community on here for men's mental health and (actual) issues, but I'm afraid it would get invaded by the toxic masculinity crap.

[-] plumbercraic 21 points 2 years ago

Isn't this exactly part of the problem? Men have been gaslit into "being a man" on one side, while also being taught to fear "toxic masculinity" if they try to discuss their problems in group/digital settings. It seems no matter how such a community behaves there will always people that push both of these narratives. But they're not part of the solution, so I'm not sure I'm gonna take them seriously.

[-] Lexam@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago

Guys being gas lit into "Being man" is the toxic masculinity I am talking about.

[-] NotYourSocialWorker@feddit.nu 12 points 2 years ago

"I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad...", what actually does people think toxic masculinity is? The one you're replying to seems to have been tricked into believing that feminists think that all masculine traits are bad. They are actually listening to the enemy of their own self best interests.

I think there might be some overlap causing confusion. Being protective and problem solving are not inherently bad, but combine it with stuff like dominating, controling and not listening to others, and it can be very harmful. So a person might believe that they are just being protective but since they didn't listen to the other person their actions turns to controling instead.

[-] quicksand@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I finally started to address my mental health issues and would love a community like that fwiw

[-] tbblake@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

It's is a good idea... but it will get hijacked by right-wing grifters. That's how the whole "incel" thing got started.

[-] valentinesmith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah - I haven’t checked Reddit again but there was

Menslib, which was focused on Men related issues and discussing them from an empathetic standpoint. I’d say it were critical social discussion with a clear emphasis on men.

And there was bropill, which was less about longer discussions and more about sharing in general.

I dunno if they are still active but if you start something I’d love to join that community. So maybe write me a DM if you do? :)

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

It would require very strict moderation but it's feasible...

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

It doesn't necessarily require strict moderation... but the mods will have to follow the Bartender's Rule.

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[-] berrodeguarana@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 2 years ago

There was one in reddit that worked well IMO: menslib

[-] PeskyAce@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

There's a sub-reddit called Daddit. It was a great support group for Dads on reddit, either struggling or wanted to share their love for their kids. It's very doable, you just need to set an example early on for what it needs to be.

[-] Phoenixbouncing@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I'd totally be down for that kind of community.

DM me if you set it up too.

[-] maxcorbetti@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

there was r/menslib on reddit. Maybe there will be some movement here

[-] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Toxic masculinity is just severe insecurity and blatant ignorance with a sprinkle of lack of education. Modern day caveman only good for moving logs and building houses. They now think they deserve a place where something educated needs to be discussed and instead of understanding or trying to understand they just spout their bullshit.

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[-] snipgan@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago
[-] robocall@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Best I can do is a slap on the back

[-] Roojuicer2@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

And a “she’ll be right”

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[-] goa_mpu@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

virtual hug

It WILL get better! You are doing your best! I proud of you for expressing your feelings!

[-] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Someone: "My gender transition is almost complete."

Society: "No, not like that!"

[-] veloxization@yiffit.net 23 points 2 years ago

Swift as the coursing river?

[-] casino@feddit.nu 14 points 2 years ago

With the force of a great typhoon?

[-] fuzzybee@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

With all the strength of a raging fire

[-] drbluefall@toast.ooo 8 points 2 years ago

Mysterious as the dark side of...

THE MOOOOOOOOOOON...?

[-] SeeMinusMinus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

I became a man are you going to save me?

[-] cerberus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Too much effort

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
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[-] hoborg@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Now man up, up, up until you are out of the water.

[-] Thteven@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

What's in it for me?

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I will tryyyyyyyy to fix you.

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[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

This is a true story: My doctor told me this while I was lying in a hospital bed, in the ICU, after trying to kill myself by ODing on pills and alcohol, straps around my wrists and ankles. This was at an extremely nice hospital in Silicon Valley, California.

I was loaded on antipsychotics and a little loopy but I remember telling him that it was sexist bullshit and unhelpful, which made the nurse chuckle.

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[-] another_lemming@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

be me

a man

not using that title to abuse minors and women

having a life worth living

observing manosphere

being depressed so many men being sad they aren't alphamegachads, insisting to become ones

write something supportive

leave them to go their own way

[-] TheBoarOrTheSpear@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I will say, from my grandfather to my father to me, it feels mental health in men has shifted. my dad told me what his dad did (like “the crust will put hair on your chest”) but it feels society has shifted on the subject and I hope our education system still reflects that!

Yay to less drowning alone! Lol

[-] patomaloqueiro@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Also Society: wHy MeN cOmMiT mOrE sUiCiDe

[-] onichama@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wish I could help you :(

Sincerely, an nb

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[-] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

In my opinion "be a man" means not afraid to talk to someone about your problems

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Yeah but that's not how the people this meme criticises use it.

[-] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Man up!

Ie. bury whatever emotion you're feeling and be more aggressive.

[-] Razzmadazz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

BE A MAN We must be swift as a coursing river BE A MAN With all the force of a great typhoon BE A MAN With all the strength of a raging fire Mysterious as the dark side of the moon

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