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submitted 8 months ago by sik0fewl@kbin.social to c/canada@lemmy.ca

A critical milestone is on the horizon for Canada's 175-year-long plan to bury its nuclear waste underground, with two pairs of Ontario communities set to decide if they would be willing hosts.

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[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 19 points 8 months ago

For the love of god, I hope they just pick one and don't let the community have a say. People are too dumb to understand how safe this is.

[-] Formes@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 months ago

Does solving the problem have an immediate political benefit? I actually don't think it does.

Does letting the community argue about the issue have immediate political benefit? Well - it certainly will sweep other issues (read: scandals) under the rug.

So I'm going to say, the community 100% will be brought into it, the location will end up being unselected, and the issue will be kicked down the curb for the next time the government needs an issue to debate about and to distract people with.

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Just stick it under parliament's centre block.

Edit: stick it in the senate instead. It's unused storage space.

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Put it in the deifenbunker

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

That's a visitable museau, with a neat bit of preserved 70/80s history.

Way more useful than the senate.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works -5 points 8 months ago

Volunteer your house then.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

If they want to drill a kilometer underground to store some inert concrete cylinders, that's no skin off my nose. Though it would probably make more sense for them to use the old mineshaft up the road from me...

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I guess the question comes down to, do you expect the government to do it right, the first time, with no fuck ups? I expect it's yet more grift brought to you by the Canadian nuclear power generation industry. The way the NWMO organization throws money around it sure smells like grift.

Every counter argument I've ever heard them make is that it's "inert concrete cylinders" full of "low level waste, like rubber gloves and lab coats" and the ads I've seen have bunny rabbits and say "protecting our future". This article says it's fuel rods lasting for millenia. Doesn't inspire confidence when they can't even keep their story straight.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

Why do you even bother having an opinion on this when you readily admit that you can't be bothered to learn the facts? You're just like "hmmm... I don't understand this but it feels like I should be against it"

I literally provided you a video that explains the different kinds of waste products and how they are handled.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I've been getting my facts from the local news. I've been following this for the 20 years it's been talked about. What makes some YouTube guys opinion worth anything at all? My information comes directly from the NWMO. My opinion has been formed by watching them splash money into every corner of the county and the targeted ads I've received for the last 8 years showing how many bunny rabbits we'll have if we sign up.

This is literally the first article I've ever read that says it's going to be something more than dirty undies.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

I've been getting my facts from the local news. I've been following this for the 20 years it's been talked about. What makes some YouTube guys opinion worth anything at all? My information comes directly from the NWMO. My opinion has been formed by watching them splash money into every corner of the county and the targeted ads I've received for the last 8 years showing how many bunny rabbits we'll have if we sign up.

Your opinion has been formed by watching TV news and adverts and you don't see why maybe that could give you a flawed understanding of the subject? That "some YouTube guy" is a documentarian who goes to an actual nuclear plant, talks directly to nuclear engineers, describes safety procedures, and explains the science of how nuclear waste is disposed of.

This is literally the first article I've ever read that says it's going to be something more than dirty undies.

So, by your own admission, you have no understanding of the subject being discussed here. Why do you assume that TV news and adverts are going to give you all the facts about the subject rather than just try to hold your attention on the TV screen?

You keep talking about "bunny rabbits" like that makes you sound smart, but all it tells me is that you know literally nothing about nuclear power generation. You just saw a commercial and a news report and got confused why they said different things. Well I've got a newsflash for you: advertisements and news are terrible mediums to deliver nuanced information.

It's perfectly okay for you not to have an opinion on the subject. There are many political issues where I can't be arsed to learn all the facts of the matter, so I don't have an opinion one way or the other. Just let the smart people whose education and career was all about nuclear safety deal with it.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

You've built me into quite the straw man. I've read every bit of information provided to my community by the NWMO. I'm judging this article against that information.

I have plenty of experience with the employees of the nuclear power generation industry. The phrase they've coined for working there is playing "Hide and seek for a grand a week, or stand in plain view for 2" Watching the money get thrown around to buy votes is gross. I'm not against nuclear energy at all, but if we were serious about generating energy from nuclear power we wouldn't be endlessly rebuilding our grandparents reactors.

The bunny thing is a targeted ad I've been seeing online for years. They have treated us like children and try to polish the turd buy underplaying what they actually want to do. Now as the vote draws nearer they're pulling back the curtain more. They learned their lesson when Godrich said no to putting in the salt mine after they spoke plainly.

My opinion is there's huge money behind this decision and it doesn't really matter what I think.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Living nearby and paying attention to this, they've always said it was "mostly low level waste, like rubber gloves and lab coats. What are you so worried about?" and here they say

Within the used nuclear fuel containers will be the fuel bundles, or rods, made of corrosion-resistant Zircaloy.

Love it when they brush off and underplay concerns and lie. Really builds trust. At least they've given us plenty of good bribes during this campaign. My town got some cool outdoor exercise equipment in the park that no one asked for. They also bankrolled The Bruce documentary which I thought was really good. Can't find it online though. No doubt people are coming around to it, generations of highly paid dog fucking will had by the guys at the security booth. Probably even better than the make work at the Point.

[-] Gadwin100@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

I've been living here a few years and ever since I've moved here, when I started paying attention to it, this topic was always about where the spent fuel would be stored. You have one of those yellow signs out, don't you?

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

I do not. And in fact I'm hoping to get on the gravy train like your mayor and get a grant. Seems like they give one to any yahoo with a sports team. Might as well sell my soul while there's a sellers market. I've always seen it described as "mostly low level waste"

[-] rab@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Of course they propose dumping it on first nations territory.

[-] O_i@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

Does Canada recycle those uranium pellets before discarding? Betcha communities would like to know before it gets dumped in their backyard

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

RTFA. They've been talking about it for 20 years.

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