You hear it argued in religious groups. "God gave us meat to eat so that is a reason to consume it" Another common one is something of the lines of "it is thanksgiving tradition to eat turkey" Edit: expanded my answer/ example

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Gorillas are more swole than they'd ever think to be lol

Yep, this is it mostly

sure, but if the person knows you're vegan, i feel it is already implied with context. i get this notion though if the person may not know you're vegan

They get turned into chicken nuggies in a blender

Yeah i had that issue too, i just stopped eating out with them because they would not stop rip

My position is it is mostly it is a bad thing unless we can remove the animal component to them, when we can do that i have no issue with it as a personal choice tbh, but will most likely stick to whole foods. I want a open source implementation of it though so people can make "craft lab meats" of sorts, so like small scale farming of it for people who want to avoid corporations if they want, though i doubt that is possible or will happen even if it is, though i would love that.

Yeah, i definitely went vegan for the "do no harm to others doctrine which may have come from my Christian background, i no longer follow that religion as i found most people who practice it are also doing virtue signalling of sorts

I needed to hear this lol

I want that mao tee turtle ngl

I think the U.S. only serves to isolate themselves in creating an American firewall. It is risky to work with the U.S. and western nations and the global south has seen that since Ukraine and so the global south will not support sanctions against Chinese and Russian goods, because it is not in their interests. They will have a lot of couping to do. That is my opinion at least, with the Russian african coalition, it would take a lot of work