"Now that we threw all the supplies overboard, we're going a lot faster now."
Just a couple dozen Bernie Sanderses in there, yelling and shaking their fingers.
I mean I don't think it's entirely fear; if they had a full grasp, they would be a lot more scared of what Trump is trying to unleash, because that will impact their safety and their families'. Try to find someone in Nazi Germany or revolutionary Russia said "It's okay, I just stayed on the right side, and so everything was fine." I think mostly they just haven't grasped that this is different, or don't know what to do / don't have the inspiration to do something different than what they've always done even if they do see it coming.
There is a story about Danegeld
Because they're getting paid either way, and like most people they just kind of want to get by, and go home to their families. It doesn't mean they're not trying to accomplish certain things or working hard sometimes, but saving the republic wasn't what they signed up for (in their minds), and it's what's required now, and they're not up for it.
I don't know why, but someone speaking in the background in a language I don't speak drives me insane. It doesn't have to be loud, I don't have to be trying to concentrate on anything especially hard, but if it doesn't stop after a couple of minutes, I basically just have to go somewhere else.
No idea why. I don't think it is any subtle racism, because it's every language. It's like my brain won't let go of trying to understand, and keeps wanting to notify me that it's having trouble and needs my help with it.
Are you under the impression that a person at Substack manually reviews every notification about every newsletter that gets sent out? It would be surprising to me if that was how it worked.
The URL has a "1" at the end, which usually means someone lost their account the first time and is now making a new one. I can't really make sense of how old the "1" version of the account is or if there used to be one without it. The blog hasn't been deleted yet, which sure isn't great, but I'm fairly sure that the people at Substack didn't make this blog or deliberately take pains to make sure it exists in any way.
I mean, you do understand that when I get a gmail notification about herbal Viagra, that doesn't mean Google has gone into the herbal supplements business, right? And in general how platforms generally work? As I understand it (and tell me if I'm wrong), their currently policy is to ban Nazis and this one should be gone soon. Maybe I'm wrong, I'll check back in a couple days and see what happened with it.
Honestly, it makes infinitely more sense to think that this is a fuck-up that is being spun to sound like a deliberate decision by internet trolls, than to think that Substack has decided to start sending literal Nazi propaganda to their users on purpose.
Also, they just took more funding from Marc Andeerssen in their most recent $100 million funding round 13 days ago, so your TL;DR is also all fucked up.
I mean, not from him personally, any more than they did from Kim Kardashian or Skims, the apparel company. I do agree that lots of VC money flooding in is a significant problem, just because it's usually (almost always) a corrupting influence in the long run. That doesn't mean that "Substack has a Nazi problem" all of a sudden becomes validated.
seeing more nuance than "A16Z investment is a necessary, end of story! No discussion allowed!" does not make one a purity obsessed leftists
Aw, jeez, you're right. I hate discussion and I hate nuance. You got me. That's exactly a really good summary of what I was saying.
The piece about Substack making nazi blogs to stir up drama was not meant to be taken seriously
Ah, yes, Schroedinger's leftist. "I was just joking! Unless...? Also, BTW, Substack's got a Nazi problem."
I don't get the
Oooooohhh
That's a good joke.
I also didn't get the reason for the ban, but I get that now too. That's a good joke.
I am not American
Great, congratulations.
it is reasonable to be sceptical of Substack's claims
What "claims"?
People in other countries get severally beaten up (or even killed) in an attempt to do real journalism
IDK if you've been paying attention, but they've been putting journalists here in ICE detention for doing real journalism. IDK why you are trying to frame pro-journalism as a thing that is somehow unique to non-America, or in any way related to Substack. That framing just makes literally 0 sense.
Journalists good. Beating up journalists bad. Hopefully we can agree on that.
Also, hosting journalists good. Hopefully we can agree on that. No? Or does the first thing mean the second one is bad somehow? This is the type of weird circuitous framing I always see when people are bringing in some kind of bullshit narrative. "Substack hosts Nazis, I don't like that" makes perfect sense, I can dig it, we can talk about it. This is just some weird circuitous nonsense.
Where did I make any claims about how the A16Z money was used?
I mean, you sure brought it up as a bad thing. Which, yes, it's pretty suspect. I would actually describe the centralization of Substack (which means it's vulnerable to a single legal action or something torpedoing the whole thing or putting them in a position where they actually do have to skew their journalism in some sort of pro-fascist direction) as the biggest problem, but you didn't touch on that, because it can't be summed up in a bite-sized "What about the A16Z money!" nugget.
Sure, it likely was used to fund journalists on the platform, including people who do good work. It is a good thing that they are getting paid.
Great! Glad we finally agree on something. Yes, it is, and it's why the centralization and VC money was maybe a necessary evil to some extent where something like Ghost will have a harder time sending bunches of money to journalists, which is why all these good left-wing journalists are on Substack right now. Which is a good thing. I mean, at least we're getting somewhere on that part lol.
I just don't buy the colourful story about "commitment to free speech"
Honestly, why not? If a platform is 80% left wing voices and raised money specifically to give to those left wing voices, and then also hosts a tiny minority (much less than 20%, just kind of the ones who show up who don't cross certain objective lines, like being Nazis) of right-wing voices, why would "free speech" not be the most logical explanation for why they're doing that?
I am aware that "free speech" is often used as a code-word to excuse Nazi platforms, but those ones are usually pretty easy to identify because they host majority Nazi voices, they kick the left-wing ones off instead of raising funding for them, and so on and so on. I get the instant suspicion of "free speech" at this point in the American media landscape, but I don't get why someone who took more than a cursory look at what Substack's doing would come to any other conclusion about why they're doing it.
and the uncritical view of the A16Z investment.
Sounds good! If I find anyone taking an uncritical view of the A16Z investment, I'll let you know, and you and they can hash it out.
There's a good bit of fake voting on Lemmy, but after a quick glance at the votes I don't think this is that, I think it's just people legitimately believing the narrative that "Substack = Nazis" and upvoting it because they believe in it.
(it would be funny if they created the Nazis blog themselves to stir things up).
Jesus Christ, see this is what I was talking about. You're making up nonsense. What they actually did was invested a bunch of money in paying actual journalism people to do actual journalism things, and then create a new way of doing things that invited a ton of qualified mostly leftist journalists to do real journalism on a platform that's a little closer to how people actually consume media now, and get paid for it, and in a sustainable fashion now that all the previous media empires are either crashing down or getting replaced with explicit propaganda.
That's where some of that A16Z money went: To journalists (some of it literally and directly, to get the ball rolling). That's why there are all these people like Robert Reich and Tim Snyder on Substack right now, doing journalism and getting paid for it. It's a good thing.
Of course, it's super easy to pretend they created a bunch of Nazi blogs instead. They didn't do that, but "it would be funny" is easy to say. Man, get lost.
I mean the private equity people get rich. It works for them. Sure, the hospitals / software companies / investors / employees / customers all suffer, but fuck 'em.