But it's just Obama. Why not use the American flag or put USA somewhere?

Sure he ramped up drone use... but like you said we would've done that regardless of who was president

You're assuming a lot dude, I don't disagree with you on any of that stuff. I literally never mentioned any of those things you're upset about. Go reread my comment.

All I'm saying is, the company I work at, which doesn't reflect everyone, has trans managers and more women leading teams of engineers than I think most Americans would imagine. That's why I asked.

I'm like 95ish% with you, it's just that you made a huge claim, the US isn't inclusive. Try to imagine a person that isn't "willfully" ignorant, for lack of (trying to find) a better word, hears you say that while from their view they see more and more trans people, women, POC, and immigrants in real positions of power. It would be understandably jarring to say that's not inclusive.

Regardless, I think you forgot to answer my question. What does the word inclusive mean to you? Is it like an all or nothing kind of thing? If so, what would that look like?

Honestly, you're not making conversation with you easy. But it's all good. Haha. I can be pretty rude and insufferable at times, myself (no offense). We totally don't have to keep this going if it's not worthwhile

You don't think the US is inclusive? What does that word mean to you?

Not trying to argue or anything. It's just a bit surprising to me. I work in the US and the company I work at takes great steps to be inclusive. I legit have to ~~always~~ applaud their efforts (as a brown dude that supports gay/trans folks). I honestly can't imagine there's many cities on earth where that happens

Edit:typo

lol. It's funny cause we're supposed to pretend the alternatives would've been better (i.e. Clinton, McCain, or Romney)

So we can't even talk openly about our opinions if they disagree with the goals of the Democratic party? See we all have our lines. This is mine.

Imo, politics isn't won by hiding your true beliefs and, for lack of a better word, being fake. Maybe it did in the past, but I don't think you can fool people that actually care.

Based on your comments I would have to assume the things you say will always be filtered by your opinion of how it will impact the Democratic party, and I personally think that's a terrible way to advocate for policies you support (unless you're a politician, which in that case I could somewhat understand). I'm open to changing my mind, but I don't think I've ever even heard an activist say something like that either

You didn't get it. Sure I'll vote for Biden but what in the world makes you think the average American will? Most Americans are legit illiterate (and as racist and greedy as can be).

I swear some people seem to legit have no idea what's going on in this country or who our fellow citizens and noncitizens are

Great could you convince the rest of the nation or are we just taking about you here?

I keep seeing this BS getting spread so here's an actual quote from one of the justices on the SC.

Sotomayor warned that the ruling "will have disastrous consequences for the Presidency and for our democracy" and that it sends the message: “Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends.”

She added, “Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.”

I have no idea why so many people from the reddit/lemmy demographic feel compelled to downplay and "well akshully" this shit. People should be in the streets burning shit right now. Or we could just wait and see, I guess

Idk, one of the judges said this ruling made him a king. I'm going to take her word over your half-assed opinion. lol

Lost revenue from switching up the tax plan to cut taxes for the rich seems like a very predictable outcome.

I wonder if anyone has thought to ask the people that proposed/passed it what they expected to happen. Better yet, I wonder if the people that voted for them have given it any thought whatsoever