RoboGroMo

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[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i could say the same thing about regulation, you really think if we can't even restrict guns you'll magic up the political will to ban something that would actually affect their daily life and earns so many companies so much money? coke pulls in 25b a year, they can afford all the lobbyists.

We need as many people as possible to have already moved away from them before we have the slightest chance at legislation.

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

what would happen if everyone turned around and said 'you know what, fuck companies that sell drinks in bottles i'm never going to be without my refillable bottle' how long would coca-cola keep producing 100 billion plastic bottles a year? what would they do with them?

But if James Quincey said 'fuck it, I'm not producing plastic bottles anymore they're bad for the planet' but 8 billion people said 'oh ok, well we're still going to regularly buy drinks in plastic bottles' the numbers of plastic bottles being made would dip slightly but only while Ramon Laguarta rushed to spend the flood of money now coming in to scale up production at pepsi co.

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

ok play it through a bit, so we shut down those 7 companies - i'm not sure which seven companies people are talking about but i assume it's related to this statistic Just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global emissions so let's just shut them all down...

mother nature breaths a sigh of relief as billions of people die because of the collapse of global infrastructure, world governments collapse, desperate conflicts erupt around the world with warlords taking over oil reserves and production facilities... the handful of dictators with working tanks and who only care about wealth and power subjugate the helpless and starving masses promising food and prosperity when victory comes...

Now the planet has been purged of everyone who actually cares about the climate, every available source of food and energy is stripped in a frantic battle for survival - how many people do you know that would let their kids freeze to death and how many people do you know that'd go out and chop down a tree to burn? A couple of months of winter and every tree in every city would be felled.

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

also we need communities already experimenting with living like that or it'll be a mess, for example I've never eaten meat in my life and as a kid people couldn't even begin to grasp that it was possible - i'd constantly get asked 'what do you eat then?!' but I haven't heard that question in years, closest to it is likely to be 'what do you have at Christmas' then when i say nut roast they no long say 'whats that?' they say 'oh i had a great nut roast once...'

As a kid family holidays used to involve stopping at the only cafe that had something without meat on the menu, now even McDonalds has a wide vegan selection (in the uk). If someone had come out in the 80s and ended the meet subsidies then it would fail instantly, if it happened now there would certainly be a large backlash but the majority of people would be able to shift their consumption patterns without many problems - the policy might have a fighting chance. Even the meat-and-two guys that i know regularly have meet free dinners, it's really common to only eat meat once or twice a week.

Of course if i was made dictator for life i'd bring in sweeping changes that ban all the evil practices which make the meat industry possible, but that's not going to happen - what is going to happen is it's going to continue to get easier and cheaper to eat plant based diets, we're going to see endless headlines like 'largest dairy producer announces closure amid increasing popularity of oat milk', it'll shift from the beef industry having a hugely powerful lobby backed by billions of dollars to the beef lobby being Joe Rogan and Liverking yelling at clouds about how they need to consume flesh to feel manly. When someone suggests banning an awful and disgusting practice within the meat industry the general consensus will be 'yeah i can go without that if it's damaging to the environment and cruel to the animals' so policy change will actually be possible.

Just shrugging and saying 'it's not going to happen overnight so i'll just keep eating meat until it does' is absolutely mindless, the bath is never going to fill if the tap isn't turned on - eating without meat helps fund and sustain the systems which makes it possible, it helps make it easier for other people to also eat without meat -- even if it's only dropping meat where it's convenient it's helping take power from the meat industry, by making a conscious choice to avoid meat you're joining an increasing number of people who do the same which represents a sizeable portion of the market - the more that gets catered to the large it grows.

Yes it's true that no one person is going to change things but when we start to move in the right direction it makes it easier for others to move that way also. This is the same with reusable bottles, using public transport, refilling containers at the store instead of single use plastics...

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

said 8 billion people in unison

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago

well going by how brutal that video of the plain falling from the sky is I'd guess Putin wanted to send a message to people who go against him - it could be paranoia but more likely he's aware of people actually plotting against him - we could well see a purge of other anti-putin characters which is historically a very key moment because it's basically like calling in poker - he's forcing them to act and if their hand is stronger then he's done for, if it's not then a handful of potential threats are removed but also more are created in the fear and resentment that comes from it.

The key thing is how Wagner and their supporters react to this, it might scare some people into silence but it's not going to win Putin any friends.

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago

going to be interesting how all the Wagner troops and supporters respond to this, it would be kinda ironic if it wasn't actually Putin but no one would ever believe that and the backlash ends up unseating him.

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

a lot of infrastructure developments are nearing completion too which makes it easier to integrate new renewable projects, hopefully we'll see an increase in tied usage for industries which can best make use of power at peek times as a way of stabilising the grid - when it's windy they make hydrogen or extract carbon from the air using the excess energy then turn off when power generation levels fall, the more this replaces traditional constant use systems the easier it and more productive it is to add renewables to the grid especially at scale.

A similar thing is likely to emerge with electric cars, e-bikes, and other battery devices, smart meter tariffs which allow people to set it to only charge when the grid has power to spare and prices are lower - if they're paired with home solar and localised generation then it could really help take the pressure off long distance transmission lines.

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

I agree though it always annoys me when people claim we've done absolutely nothing - it's an incredibly hard problem and people in and out of governments have been working on solutions and implementing them where possible. It takes time to develop workable technologies and to implement them efficiently but in a lot of places this is happening and we should highlight things that are working and showing promise so that good ideas spread, just saying 'everything is bad and we're going to die' isn't going to convince anyone to get on the right side of things but demonstrating we have lots of great ideas and emerging solutions which offer benefits even beyond climate protections just might.

Auke Hoekstra from the Eindhoven University of Technology in the Netherlands said: “Many young people are depressed because they feel climate change cannot be stopped. We want to offer them hope by showing that our world can get all its energy needs from renewables at a price below that of fossil fuels. When we first proposed this we were ridiculed, but this paper shows our ideas are now scientific mainstream.”.

from a study showing we can reach 100% renewable energy usable globally before 2050, and that's just based on current rollout of existing technologies using existing methods and economies - automated construction tooling and fully-automated fabrication is going to greatly boost the rate at which adoption of new technologies can happen, and that's without any black-swan developments which might come about especially through the use of AI r&d tools (such as those making huge leaps in chemistry and pharmacology currently) - though again as the study demonstrates we don't even need these things to come about, and while our focus absolutely should be on protecting the ecology and climate of the planet we probably don't even to have everyone onboard because transition to wind and solar is economically sensible too.

”Renewable energy technology is advancing rapidly, increasing the energy return on investment for renewable energy production; conversely, as fossil fuel reserves are depleted, they actually yield a decreasing return on investment as time goes by. Thus, if viewed in simple net energy terms, without even considering the climate change arguments for renewable energy, investing in renewable energy makes better physical and business sense than investing in fossil fuels.”

  • Dr Marco Raugei Senior Research Fellow at Oxford Brookes University

Albania, Iceland, and Paraguay already obtain all their electricity from Renewable sources (hydro mostly), Sweden is getting close to 70% and very much on track to reach it's target of 100% before it's 2040 goal, Costa Rica is up at about 98% Renewables, Scotland ~97% with them on track to generate 50% of overall energy consumption (transport, heat, electrical) from renewables - big industrial countries are making huge progress too, Germany is now over 50% renewable and heavily ramping up the rate of adoption, on par with China who are also just over 50% and increasing rapidly (after heavy investment in technology and infrastructure to facilitate this change) - even the united states now has [slightly] more generation from renewables than coal AND more nuclear than coal -

Calling this 'jack shit' is absurd, and it's only one strand of all the things people and governments have been working on, we're working hard to understand the problem, monitor it, develop and implement solutions which allow us to try and keep things working for everyone and keep everyone alive. It's not like we can just turn off oil or something, not only would millions die but it would undoubtedly start endless wars which would result in even more widespread chaos and climate destruction while ending all the positive steps people are working on. It's an incredibly difficult challenge but we're equipped to deal with it and if everyone that cares tries to pitch in a bit and work towards a better world then it's absolutely possible - defeatism and doomerism isn't going to get us anywhere.

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago

I would love to see train tracks with solar panels above, the infrastructure could be used for energy transport as well to load balance between localized generation networks. There's certainly a lot more that could be done with rail lines, the key is not to expect one size fits all solutions and to work on developing integrated networks with whatever suits the local situation best.

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago

Depends where your skills and interests lay but maybe consider making the coolest window box you can grow small leaf and herbs in to add to your cooking.

Maybe even consider starting plants to the stage they're ready to plant out and find someone with shared interests local who has a garden.

[–] RoboGroMo@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's not yet got everything Reddit had but I've found a lot of great communities which are really enjoyable to participate in so I'm enjoying it more here

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