[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

You're worried about olive trees when they kill innocent and kidnap them into torture tunnels? You're worried about West bank terrorist olive trees? Olive trees are what you're worried about? While there are still hostages in tunnels you worry about olive trees?

They should burn every last centuries old as well as sapling olive tree until those people are returned.

In a video of one protest in the West Bank city of Jenin on the night of July 31, one Palestinian man yelled, “We from the land of Jenin affirm that we are all Hamas,” as he led dozens of people walking through the streets.

Would you say the olive trees of jenin are Hamas olive trees?

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago
  1. Ask nicely, and if the people already there agree, come on over,

"No stay where you are in Russia where they are killing and raping you."

Nakhba

You have revisionist context. The nakhba started in 1948. You act like the Palestine Arabs did nothing wrong themselves over the 66 years since the first settlements.

You leave out stuff like this

And this

In 1922 11% of the population was Jew settlers.

that's a development which started with Zionism, particularly in its right-wing

It started after 30 years of being ransacked by the Arabian looters of the area who were doing that for at least 300 years.

Then you brought up land sales as well. So, this all started because they sold their land to Jews then were mad Jews moved into the land?

Or do you want to deny what Israel is doing in the West Bank? The state-sanctioned terror going on there?

People were once saying there was no Hamas in West Bank. There were no supporters there. Then it came out Hamas was indeed there. They should just leave them alone, eh?

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You mean whether colonialism is a good thing? No. No, it isn't.

Then why did the population of Arabs in the area exponentially grow. It doesn't seem as bad as you make it to be. You act like Jews came there and stole their land and pillaged them. As I pointed out with Rishon LeZion in 1883 it's not really the case it's the other way around if anything.

Why shouldn't Jews have a colony in Israel anyways? Why only Arabs?

which they couldn't really do because Zionists, instead of working with the British, bombed them instead,

Wonder why they would do that? British sure we're helping them. /s

Anyways for someone who hates colonialism so much you sure are upset they got the Brits up out of there.

How is the responsibility of random Johnny Arab to go out of their way to help some random Jews wanting to settle in the middle of nowhere without proper preparation. Why would they owe the settlers that.

No, you know, you're right. Instead it was their responsibility to pillage them. Why would they owe them anything else than the pillaging of their starving settlement. Cowards. And you're upset they lost their own war? From what I read they were always savage pillagers for hundreds of years. Until someone checked them. And they checked them fucking hard. Deservingly at that.

We warned them we would be bombing the shit out of marketplaces and they didn't cease to do perfectly normal and peaceful things like visiting the market to buy and sell food so we had no choice but to terrorise them"

Maybe they didn't heed to the warnings and stop terrorizing people themselves. Wtf are you supposed to do? Wait another 30 years and hope it all stops?

Also you have to think once they got their own state or colony or whatever you call it the Irgun ended all that. On top of it the Irgun isn't an official entity of the Israeli government. In fact their govt labeled them a terrorist organization.

And yet the terror continued.

Of course it did. They been terrorizing for hundreds of years.

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

I already had you half-pegged as an Israeli but that definitely disqualifies you, you know nothing about Israel.

That contradicts itself. How can you have me half pegged as an Israeli if I know nothing. I would have to know a decent amount of something.

And no, early Zionists were not at all shy about calling what they were doing colonialism.

Ohh no they setup a colony where persecuted Jews across Europe could escape to. You might wonder if the Jews moving to that area may have been a good thing? With the Jews also brought lots of Arab immigrants as well. And just for some numbers in 1900 there were around 600,000 Arabs in Israel and 90 thousand Jews.

1920 is what the article you linked starts off with. It has pretty much nothing to do with Rischon LeZion

Yes it does. It shows how things escalated over the 30 years after the settlement of Rishon LeZion and to what degree the Palestine Arabs escalated it.

Who got pillaged, when? And, yes, shit happens. The right course of action would've been to round up the perpetrators and put them before court. What the Idrun did, instead, was to bomb police stations and market places.

Rishon LeZion. 1983 while they were starving with no water well trying to transport water on camelback to farm the land. How can they round up the perpetrators? I'm assuming the perpetrators hide behind some guarded fortress. You think a starving people is going to accomplish that?

Then back to the Jerusalem Post article the relevant part is here: you even pointed to it yourself.

But there was much more than the Arab misinterpretation of our Western-minded moderation and inclination to delude ourselves that if we overlook sporadic barrages from Gaza, its homicidal ardor will somehow dissipate.

Here are some announcements and warnings the Irgun gave to Palestine-Arabs. Why are you so apologetic for those murderers?

The National Military Organization has warned you, if the murderous attacks on Jewish civilians shall continue, its soldiers will penetrate your centers of activity and plague you. You have not heeded the warning. You continued to harm our brothers and murder them in wild cruelty. Therefore soldiers of the National Military Organization will go on the attack, as we have warned you.

... However even in these frenzied times, when Arab and Jewish blood is spilled at the British enslaver, we hereby call upon you ... to stop the attacks and create peace between us. We do not want a war with you. We are certain that neither do you want a war with us...[57]

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Expanding that to the sole population is like calling all Israelis Kahanites, ...

You did just call me that. I don't know what it means.

You were talking about 1920. That's Battle of Tel Hai and the Nebi Musa riots.

1920 is 30 years after the first settlement. I believe the first settlement were hippies who wanted to live in peace. A lot of them had just moved there from a crazy situation in Russia. Why is it a crazy notion they want to live in peace? You don't explain why they were attacked and pillaged and I can't find that. Other than Arab marauders have always looted and pillaged for hundreds of years?

That is maybe part of the context to all those moderate actions Britain took.

You have to think as well. This was all some 3d game of Russian propaganda chess and controlled chaos.

You called me a kahanite well what about you? Left wing anti Semite?

This also can seem to describe you.

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Who is "they"? You might want to go back and read that article.

...? The Japanese anti Korea public? The Japanese public who let the protests continue for a whole year?

you're still spouting the same myths.

What myths? For someone who has carried on for 3 days it's weird you stop here.

There is literally nothing you have said to the treatment of the first settlers in 1890. They didn't displace anyone. It was just 100 people settling surrounded by what? 100K people? And that's the way they were treated? Left to starve and their village pillaged? Okay buddy. You say Rishon LeZion is a myth? That they had to go to France just to get a well made because those jew haters couldn't help them is a myth?

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago

You were talking about Japan's social sentiment of the zainichi. So I pointed to the year long hate speech protests they conducted toward school children

More than half of which were driven out of the country, by threat of settler violence, during the Nakhba.

It is completely false. They left because their Arab allies warned them to leave as they were going to invade Israel. Which they did.

What really happened is the first Jewish immigrants(just 100 people in 1890 known as Rishon LeZion) faced harsh conditions. Trouble farming their barren land, starving and trouble getting water to their settlement. All while starving and trying to live the Arab marauders would pillaged their settlement. There was no displacement or made up nakhba.

When the blood-curdling battle cry exhorting the masses to slaughter the Jews, “Itbach al-Yahud,” was first shouted on April 4, 1920, by Arab marauders rampaging through the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem’s Old City, it was accompanied by another mantra: “A-Dawla ma’ana” – the government is with us.That was the first brazen reverberation of the trust that Jews can be attacked with impunity, that no deterrence exists. It was since oft-chanted during the perpetration of other atrocities during the British Mandate era masterminded by Haj Amin el- Husseini, most notably the hideous Hebron massacre of 1929.

That sentiment has always been the same to " Itbach al-Yahud " even nearly 100 years later with Hamas.

Then, WTF is "Hamas-Palestinians"

Damn, you really are dumber than I thought. Looool.

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is not random people, that was a top advisors of the country.

One possible reason the Japanese mainstream media is reluctant to criticize...

However you justify it and make jokes. Don't forget they also did kill 600k Koreans then pretty much enslave them for cheap labor. Waaaay more than Israel killed Hamas-Palestinians and civilian casualties.

Several well-publicized examples of hate speech targeting these Korean ethnic schools have been recorded. In December 2009, January 2010, and March 2010, anti-Korean activists staged three demonstrations chanting abusive slogans, such as “children of spies,” via loudspeakers against a Korean primary school in Kyoto. They claimed that the school illegally used a nearby park as a playground for more than fifty years. The school did in fact use the park, but with permission from Kyoto City and the local residents’ association. After the rallies, the ultra-rightists uploaded videos of the demonstrations online. Since the demonstrations and the social media posting of the incidents severely traumatized the students, teachers, and parents, the school filed a lawsuit in 2010. The lower court ruled in its favor.

Random people say stuff and you elevate it to state policy and social sentiment?

Such a nice social sentiment /s

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago

Dude there are japanese authors who embrace apartheid not just abe. South Africa is tired of Japanese shit.

Are you just making shit up.

I'm not making anything up. I haven't made a single thing up. You just don't give a single shit.

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago

Yes I read it all. It shows a pattern for Japan which openly embraces apartheid up to recent times. They support that crap. Just like the congo did. In fact the congo like Japan was also an apartheid during those relations.

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

The degree of discrimination, the complete impossibility of leaving second-class citizen status

20% of the Israeli citizens are Palestine descent. 2 million Palestinian citizens of Israel.

So, yes, those "different laws" exist, but they're in the favour of Zainichis.

Yeah, their laws I pointed out to you on how schools operate realllly favour zainichi Koreans. /s Incase you need it

[-] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

You admitted they have several things to change after 2 days of arguing with you about it. Lol.

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