ViceroTempus

Nobody said they weren't, but they amount to the same problem in reality. I'm also tired of doing the same thing over and over and expecting new results. We've done it your way for decades and all they do is capture all leftward pressure and defuse it. Forcing our march ever rightward. They work for the owner class, not for you or me.

We're in this situation because of your line of thinking. On average there are 40% of eligible voters that don't vote, and that's in the Presidential race only. It's much higher for nearly all offices, outside of the ones we vote on every 4 years. I believe this apathy is brought about because these people see no value in voting, as it changes nothing meaningful in their lives. This isn't to say that they weren't better, but anytime they had to make progressive moves, they make conservative ones that benefit the owner class.

At some point it's time to wake up and do something different.

Edit: Typos

I'm not depersoning them, their actions already have.

No it's cool to bring those who harm innocents, or support those that harm innocents to justice and to enforce the social contract. MAGA/ICE is kidnapping people off the street for a 1k-1.5k bounty per person, and sending them to a concentration camp. They have violated the human rights of their once fellow humans. They sold their humanity for money, and fascism. They are committing unjustifiable violence and aggression on the population.

As such, they are no longer protected by the social contract. Anything they do, can now be done to them without it being considered immoral, or unethical.

Because of his mangled dick?

IMO, it was performative. I think the Democratic Party for the most part is controlled opposition for the owner-class. It's foolish to continue to support them, or really any facet of this oppressive government.

Clean 'em all out and let's build anew.

Actually easy. Those who break the social contract are no longer protected by it. ICE/MAGA/Republicans have broken this social contract and now it's moral to target them. Glad I could help clear that up for you.

I'm sorry, I guess my initial reply was too many words to be understood fully. So I'll be more succinct.

**Something horrifically dramatic has already happened, it's already time for us to use our 2A rights for communal self defense. **

Otherwise I agree with what you just said, but I felt like you missed my point, so I wanted to say it in no uncertain terms.

I mean that's how the civil rights movement succeeded here in the US. I know we get a heavily sanitized version basically reduced to "I have a dream" but the Black Panthers and Malcolm X were extremely active and militarized. It was either deal with MLK's peace movement or deal with Malcolm X and the Black Panthers.

Thank you for posting what I've wanted to convey about that study. Mixed strategy movements are the ones with true success. The civil rights movement did not succeed on MLK's back alone. Malcolm X and the Black Panthers becoming militarized is why the U.S. government started thinking about extending an olive branch. Well that and the RIOTS after Dr. MLK was assassinated by the FBI. And those riots were not "peaceful".

It is though. The rich don't want their livestock exterminated but brought to heel. Occupation happens with boots on the ground, infantry. That means small arms, drones, and ground vehicles. Not nukes, missiles, or bombs.

Also the populace out numbers the military by HUGE margin. No force is strong enough in manpower to overcome a civilian population in a state of resistance. The US military also sucks at asynchronous warfare. Or have we already forgotten our last 20year war in the Middle East?

How is people being disappeared to concentration camp not already horrifically dramatic?

How is elected officials being arrested for asking for a warrant, or asking questions not already horrifically dramatic?

How is sending our own military and arresting civilians in L.A. not already horrifically dramatic?

Where the fuck is your line?

Didn't they already send in the national guard and marines into L.A.? I don't think he feels the need to wait for us to actually start shooting these thugs.