Warehouse

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[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago

My bad, it seemed like you were implying that the 38.7% of people who signed the Forever Canadian petition and the 30% who are (or at least were) for Alberta separatism were the exact same group.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You think the people who signed the Forever Canadian petition are all people who want to leave Canada?

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Pretty much, yeah.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

To your first question, not really. The entire point of the notwithstanding clause is such that it cannot be challenged by the court. To your second question, yes.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but the Canadian government isn't the one who put out the ad. The Ontario government did. Why does Carney have to apologize for something that Ford did?

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The streaking was so bad on mine that I bit the bullet and just replaced the windshield.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 1 points 3 months ago

The Chief Electoral Officer would then review the signatures and determine if the petition has been successful. Successful legislative and policy initiatives would then be referred to a committee of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta for consideration. If the committee does not support a legislative initiative, a public vote would be held.

So it sounds like this passing doesn't necessarily lead to a referendum. Which, again, leads to the "heads I win tails you lose" scenario.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 1 points 3 months ago

It's more so that there are 10 Albertans, 3 want to leave, and they need signatures from 2 to add it to the ballot for a referendum.

https://angusreid.org/smith-shapiro-sovereignty/

There would certainly be enough people to get 177 thousand signatures within 4 months.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

https://www.alberta.ca/system/files/custom_downloaded_images/jsg-citizen-initiative-act-fact-sheet.pdf

It can, but maybe not. Unless I'm reading it wrong, a referendum vote isn't actually needed.
Though if I am reading it right, it seems like a "heads I win, tails you lose" sort of scenario.
If the "leave" petition passes, it seems like they could just state "Yep that's what Alberta wants now, no vote needed."
I doubt that a "stay" petition would get such a benefit of the doubt.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Thomas Lukaszuk certainly could be lying about the reasons why he submitted the petition. He was the Deputy Premier of the PCs after all, so, there's that.

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