[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

wait, instilling global-level racism is not fascism?

No. Fascism is fascism. This exact flavor of stupidity/dishonesty is why I asked where you get your nonsense definition. You don't need me to define fascism - just take the five minutes to pick up your preferred dictionary or even better, Umberto Eco's widely respected definition and educate yourself.

there is one possible outcome for this election

No. There are two (bad) possible outcomes that vary massively in the scale of death and suffering that they'll lead to. To draw and argue a false equivalence is not only to dismiss that easily preventable death and suffering - it's to advocate for it. Also, not relevant, but not my country.

If you're not American, you can't vote, but where you're failing to lift a finger is that you refuse to ease off your meaningless virtue signalling bullshit around the election a massive number of lives are at stake.

Pull your fucking head in and stop enabling the deaths of who knows how many people you dishonestly claim to care about as you weaponise their suffering for nothing more than your ego.

Absolutely disgraceful.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

A war of aggression started in October by Hamas.

Yeah - history started 13 months ago, and the genocide being committed in Palestine is actually a Hamas war of aggression. Is it because it's all Israeli territory and therefore that genocide is justified?

Once again LBGTQ+ individuals would be killed, jailed and persecuted even without the current conflict with Israel.

You don't get to weaponise the LGBTQ+ community, who Israel is exterminating at a far quicker rate than everyone else in the region combined to justify the extermination of those LGBTQ+ people, their families, and everyone they care about.

Once again Lebanon is an active war zone.

Yes - Israel invaded them.

Simple Israel is fighting a war that was thrust on it by Hamas in October. Nazis fought a war of aggression. The fact that you can’t tell the difference is sad.

That's probably less defensible than the argument that the Jews were sabotaging the German economy in defence of the Holocaust - it's definitely less defensible than arguing Hitler had no choice but to start WWII because of the economic carve-up following WWI.

Congratulations - you're just as genocidal as the Nazis and use even stupider arguments than they do. The tankies can go fuck themselves - but my prescription for you would defy TOS, Rudolph Jitler.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

sigh

What definition of fascism are you using? It sure as shit isn't the dictionary or Eco's - words have meaning.

That aside, there are 2 possible outcomes for this election - that's a simple, mathematical reality. If you care about brown people, which of those two options will cause the death and suffering of far more of those people?

...but rather than lift a finger to actually help those you claim to care about, you're going to throw them under the bus and empower the worse option because you can't swallow your pride and vote for the lesser of two evils. An I right in thinking you'll risk those peoples' lives so that you can virtue signal with a Green vote?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

Yawn

History started 13 months ago (but only as it relates to the genocide Israel is committing) - but you'd better not pay attention to who has been killing the most LGBTQ+ people (and straight people, civilians, children...) in the region.

I'm the one brushing aside reality, eh?

You don't ever look at the fact that you're defending a genocide and question yourself? That you're weaponising the Palestinian LGBTQ+ population whose extermination you're actively supporting exterminating to justify that extermination?

...nah - better to just say I'm off my meds.

You wouldn't have to tie yourself in bizarre knots to defend a genocide if you simply decided not to defend the indefensible. You don't have a moral framework, you don't have a logical framework - you have "Israel gud, so genocide gud."

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Hooray for courts stacked with sycophants and partisans, and liberals enabling fascism because meaningfully opposing it would be uncivil.

There's slim hope that Trump losing the election along with his viability as president or leader of the GOP would see his protections make way for consequences, but even that seems unlikely.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Your prescription seems to assume that either:

  1. Everyone can be rehabilitated, which no society has ever achieved.

  2. That it's preferable to push a well understood risk to people's lives back into the community than it is to keep that risk in the care of the state where they can't kill more people.

...but you strike me as too sensible to prescribe that kind of thing, so what have I missed?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

They're not currently in power. I'd like to keep it that way.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Hold it in Palestine, get murdered by Israel.

Hold it in Iran, get murdered by Israel.

Hold it in Lebanon, get murdered by Israel.

...but Israel is less homophobic than them, so Israel's genocide is good, actually.

Are you able to explain why the Nazis were bad in a way that doesn't implicate Israel?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

It's not complex - bigotry is bad, genocide, as the most extreme possible outcome of bigotry, is far worse. Some bigotry in a population isn't justification for a genocide - that would be an apocalyptic prescription if applied consistently.

You do understand why people would look at your prescriptions and think that you're either a world-ending lunatic or genocidal piece of shit, right? Why would we be wrong?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I'll ask again because you dodged the important question - Does Palestine have the right to defend itself like Israel and what would that look like to you?

Which specific 2 state solutions are you referring to? I assume it's the ~1994 deal that collapsed because Israel couldn't stop their terrorism and assassinations throughout the negotiations, and the Partition Plan that violated the UN charter with respect to national self-determination and carved out the majority of the territory to the minority Israeli population.

To defend the genocide of Palestine as a necessary lesson reveals a let's say... interesting moral framework - particularly as Israel escalates aggression against Iran and Lebanon. Putting aside the obvious genocidal intent, rhetoric, and action, how does an exterminated population learn any lesson?

Your argument is the best possible case one could make for the genocide of Israel - they are the regional threat and aggressor - they are the ones that (by your sickening logic) need to be exterminated to teach them a lesspn. The outcomes of the actions you're defending have civilisation-ending consequences one way or another, and zero benefit - why do you hold these positions?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

My bigotry and genocide is fine because other countries have bigotry, actually.

What do you think you stand for, exactly?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

You don't need the permission of a European kid to vote for the least shit option for your government and kick the can of fascism a little further down the road. The recent is close - the outcomes delivered by each candidate aren't - you shouldn't need encouragement to vote accordingly.

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