What I don't understand about this... If illegal immigrants aren't "subject to the jurisdiction" of the US, doesn't that make them immune from all state and federal law? Isn't this arguing that they effectively have diplomatic immunity? So an illegal immigrant could come to the US, murder a healthcare CEO in broad daylight, and all we could do is deport them.

Exactly. For example, they have a policy of not allowing trans writers to write opinion pieces on trans issues, as they consider the people most knowledgeable about trans issues to be "biased."

See John Oldman

Seriously. There have been profiles of his online interests. He clearly was not a political partisan. What he was more than anything was anti-establishment. He was a big fan of both AOC and Joe Rogan. However, the corporate media is doing what it always does - try to divide us along artificial partisan lines.

Here's an idea I've been kicking around, something to really send a message. What would y'all think about a crowd funding campaign to erect a life sized bronze statue of Luigi, to be commissioned and installed in NYC as close to the shooting site as possible? Alternatively or in addition, a statue could be installed somewhere near UHC's headquarters in Minnesota.

Some googling suggests a statue like that will cost between $25k-250k. That seems quite doable as far as crowd funding goes.

I'm not particularly partial to statues myself. I would see its value mainly as a means of sending a message, keeping the topic of health reform in the headlines, etc.

All I know is if that rat fucking "kids for cash" judge deserves a pardon, Luigi sure as hell does.

You mention the Gulf of Mexico. A friend of ours recently has his whole family catch cholera from swimming on the beach in Galveston. They're fine and all made full recoveries, as it isn't lethal if properly treated. But yes, in the Year of Our Lord 2024, you can catch literal cholera just by going to the beach in Texas.

We have a friend whose family recently all got cholera. Not joking, this literally happened this year. They caught it from swimming on the beach in Galveston.

The governor of NY should give him a full pardon, and the mayor of NYC should throw him a parade. What he did was an act of justice, bringing righteous vengeance upon the wicked. He did nothing wrong.

Thinking of running for high office? Looking for a hook for your campaign? Run for governor of NY on a campaign pledge to give Luigi a full pardon. You would win in a landslide.

Nah screw that. The governor of New York should give him a full pardon. He did nothing wrong. He's a latter-day John Brown.

The governor of New York should issue Luigi Mangione a full pardon. He did nothing wrong. What he did was an act of justice.