[-] abfarid@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

As you mentioned, it's still a slab, that is only good for a few genres of games. Basically, a flat controller without the analog sticks, which is opposite of ergonomic, and you don't use that with a mouse.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

You're misinterpreting my point. We can make a device with precise inputs that isn't a flat slab of buttons, we just haven't yet. This is not a gamepad vs. KBM argument.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

It's not really that ironic. Something more ergonomic with the same tactile short travel buttons would've worked even better, you can just also do it with a keyboard, albeit not as comfortably.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 4 points 2 days ago

12 items is express..?

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 9 points 2 days ago

Why are humans the only ones eating? It's the dog's day!

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 6 points 3 days ago

In the very least, something more rounded and ergonomic than a row of buttons, something that lays out the buttons in such a way that they are more easily reachable without moving or contorting your hand. Fewer buttons for the pinky, more buttons for the thumb, which is now pretty much only used to hit spacebar. Maybe a big analog stick that sits under your palm, so you can tilt your entire hand to move (IDK how how useful that would be, but you wanted me to imagine something), leaving your fingers free to perform other actions.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 5 points 3 days ago

I didn't set a goal to pitch something better, I just pointed the fact that we use unoptimized hardware and hopefully somebody is working on something better.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I'm not strictly comparing KBM vs. gamepad. As you mentioned, keyboards are just not ergonomic, and that's what I was basically saying. So you understood my point precisely, I, too, want to see more options.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 7 points 3 days ago

You're missing my point and just sticking to the usual false dichotomy of KBM vs. gamepads. I'm saying, we should come up with something better than a device designed for entering text, and I didn't even criticize mice. Keyboard isn't and can't be "optimal" gaming device because that's not its purpose, and it's not what it was optimized for. Games just adapted to accommodate the devices already included with every PC, with varying degrees of success. That is just a fact, not an opinion. Keyboards weren't made for playing games, we just adapted to using them, therefore they aren't optimal.

Which means that we are yet to develop the optimal device for gaming to use in conjunction with the mouse, one that was designed specifically for that purpose. Just because you "don’t know what else would be better when combined with the mouse" (quote from your other comment) it doesn't mean that nobody can design something better.

Yes, controller are purpose built for gaming, and they are definitely far superior in a lot of game genres. But mouse still is better for precision control, be it aiming a gun or selecting a unit. And keyboard is holding it back, because it's just an unoptimized row of buttons.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 11 points 3 days ago

Notice, that I didn't say it's impossible to use KB for gaming, I just said (or implied) that it's not optimal. It's not good, it's just what we have and what we are used to, and there's a lot of room for improvement. And I say this as a PC gamer of 30+ years. So much so that when I lay my hand on a keyboard it automatically assumes the WASD position, even if I intend to type.

And I'm glad that I brought this perspective to your attention, because we often don't question what we are used to since childhood. Hopefully, these discussions will eventually bring us something better, that we have not yet thought of.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 21 points 3 days ago

Can we all please admit that we merely tolerate keyboard as a gaming input device because of the precision that mouse provides? (Except maybe some special cases, like RTS) It's a glorified typewriter, and we (PC gamers) use it only because at some point, it was all that we had and we just got used to it. There must be something better than a panel of buttons.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There's a lot of things that people do that aren't for practical reasons. That's why all our homes aren't just concrete cubes. Somebody must have decided that this looks cool and futuristic.

Strictly from practical reasons, I suppose it's marginally easier and faster to identify a free stall. Whether that is worth the extra cost is subjective.

Also, the default state for this glass is frosted. In case of a failure it all becomes frosted.

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