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If you go to the middle east and start dancing around in speedos as a white male you’re not going to feel very privileged.

So if you go to the middle east as a white person, especially a white man, you will feel incredibly privileged.. Maybe more so than in the west.. Of course there are significant differences depending on where exactly you go, but in a lot of places, there are significant differences of standards that apply to tourists compared to locals. And as a white person, people of course automatically assume that you are a tourist and they will be much much more tolerant towards behaviour that is normally not tolerated.

For example, there are many places where alcohol is completely illegal for locals, but it is completely legal for tourists. And if you wear a speedo, you might get some looks, but if your white, everyone knows you are a western tourist and will most likely tolerate it. If you are a local and/or non-white, chances of it being tolerated will probably be lower. And certainly if you are female, the chances of it being tolerated is virtually 0.

And there are many laws where the police either looks the other way, or it officially does not apply to westeners (anti-LGBT laws, sex outside of marriage laws, etc.)..

There’s nothing CRT can predict that “financial class theory” won’t predict better.

I mean there are a lot of different theories about many different things that might or might not be interesting for certain people. I'm not an academic, so I don't know if CRT is usefull or not, but at the end of the day, a theory is a theory.. It probably has it's limits of usefulness, but using the state to ban/outlaw a theory seems very questionable to me on principle.

If you are looking for actual opinions / discussions, then you may be misinformed or looking in the wrong place.

Dude, we both know that there is no space where right wingers have "civilized dicussions", at least not in places where non-right wingers are tolerated.. You guys seem to communicate via facebook tier memes at this point. The only possible place to have any contact with right wingers are "free-speech" meme communities because everywhere else, I would get banned pretty much immediately.

Those subs probably have the highest number of users right

They are the only communities with any numbers right now, the rest is virtually dead..

Well, if speech is free, then why not?

"Free speech" kinda implies that memes with different opinions and views are posted. Instead, the opposite is the case, it's virtually only one viewpoint that is presented.

However, I don’t set out to exclusively post stuff about Trans despite what you seem to be thinking.

Given your attitude towards the trans community, I definitely don't think you do it on purpose.. In practice, I still see a community that is obsessed with the trans community to an absurd degree..

I have plenty of posts memeing other topics like socialism, authoritarian regimes, Joe and Hunter Biden, censorship, how leftists like as a group tend to have a large number of individuals that claim to be more accepting / less racist but in actually are less accepting / more racist, and so on.

Right, the way I see it, you guys have exactly two topics, or one topic depending on how you look at it. It's "the gays/homos/trans" and "the left". In practice, those two are often treated as the same thing.

That's pretty much it. It's pretty much the same as the liberals who go on about Trump all day long and about how everyone not living in cities is a violent racist homophobe..

Now, I know what your probably thinking. Some guy that creates a s/n about hating troons is probably a “transphobic bigot”. Personally, I give zero fucks what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes.

Right, but the thing is nobody will ever believe you when you are called "ihatetroons", write about how much you hate "troons", post memes about how "troons" are pedos, etc.

It's pretty much the same as the KKK member saying "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" or "I don't hate black people, I just want them to live seperately from white people, that's better for everyone". Either your definition of "transphobic bigot" is different from most others or you are just a bad troll..

And if someone wants to irreparably mutilate their own bodies instead of going to a therapist

Right, that's how it works, you just go to the trans factory and say "one body mutilating transition please"..

But when those same politics start bringing that stuff into the grade school classrooms or bullying tactics like “you can’t disagree with us or you’re a bigot” start getting thrown around, then I give lots of fucks.

The funny thing is that it was mostly you guys yourself that have built that narrative.. Sure, if you go looking for it, you will find dumb people doing dumb things, that's true for every possible group of people. But you guys seem to be working overtime to keep up the fantasy world where you get oppressed daily intact and that's on you.

I’ve also seen several online tech forums that have nothing to do with gender of any kind invite all types and over the course of several years end up getting a lot of trans and furry content posted all over in the general areas, which kind of pissed me off.

No way, tech online forums are filled with weird nerds who like strange stuff? Who would have thought..

The issue in my view was the move away from strongly moderated forums where your comment would get removed for the simplest of reasons towards the idea that online forums should be as unmoderated as humanly possible because of "freedom of speech". And the reason this happened was probably because big tech didn't want the effort that comes with moderating a community.

But of course you want a free-speech forum, or am I wrong?

So if speaking out about stuff like that makes me a hater, then I don’t care anymore.

Being critical or questioning things doesn't make one a hater. But again, you are literally called "ihatetroons", so I seriously don't understand why you want to act suprised when people actually take what you say half-way seriously.. Don't you think this whole game about "I don't really dislike trans people, well just a little bit, but I actually hate the politics" is a bit silly? I mean again, even if you were just using that name to be edgy and to trigger the libs (which everyone claims), you are actively trying to signal to everyone that you hate trans people, so you shouldn't be suprised when people think you actually do..

Saying "white people are privileged" isn't a judgement though, it is a perceived description of reality. And because of "racism" (the idea that humanity can be separated into different "races" based on characteristics such as skin color), if society places you in the "white people" category, you will be treated differently than if you are placed into the "non-white category".

To name a specific and concrete example, if you happen to get classified as "white", you will not be racially profiled and searched by police simply because of your racial classification. In this specific case, white people have the privilege of not having to deal with that issue.

Where the idea of white privilege falls short is that it implies that "white people" are always more privileged and/or better off than "black people" in every way, which is obviously not true. In reality, your perceived class identity is much more important when it comes to how you are probably going to be treated by society.

The issue is that oftentimes, race is used to judge someone's class status. A black person is more likely to be classified as "poor". However, when you are "white", but you look like a homeless person, you will probably be treated in a similar way.

If a heterosexual man was taking pills to lactate and feed his kids, I would want to wash my eyes

Ok but it wasn't a heterosexual man..

For very similar reasons this unnatural practice is repugnant.

First of all, male lactation is something that has been documented occasionally in nature, including in humans.

Secondly, claiming "unnatural practice" as the sole and obvious justification why we shouldn't do something always seems very strange to me. We are humans, we have rejected nature a long time ago. Pretty much anything we do is "unnatural" by definition. Any medication ever would fall into the category of "unnatural practices", so would you sitting on an "unnatural" chair and looking into an "unnatural" screen.

I do not want to illegalize or actively pursue some sort of conflict with them, but I also want to state my opinions about it frankly.

Which is fine in my view.

I am sure that there are people on the Left who LOL and upvote at memes that have violent fates for “Nazis” and many were likely chortling with glee at the fire memes about the dead billionaires in the sub…

There are definitely lefties who have a very weird and ultra romanticized view of "revolution" and there is definitely a lot of negative feelings towards billionaires and others. But ultimately, leftists aren't primarily concerned with targeting individuals, whether that is individual right wingers, individual politicians, etc.

They are concerned with systemic issues and targeting the system overall.

But isn’t it sealioning if I then go to your instances and say that you are all violent revolutionaries with homicidal fantasies?

It would be, yes. But that's not what I'm doing in my view, I'm not saying "you are all violent racist homophobes", if I believed that, I wouldn't be here. I had a great and insightful conversation just the other day.

But when I see a "meme post" that is about how "Trannies are pedos who abuse children" (masked behind the idea that "it's just a joke, just a bit of lighthearted fun") where the most upvoted comment is saying something like "trannyfags should be lined up and shot", I will call that out.

And my aim isn't to paint you all as violent extremists, my aim is to show you that tolerating this kind of "discourse" is just destroying your own community and ultimately undermines the free-speech space you want to build.

in context he is calling for capital punishment for criminals who abuse children

He was literally saying that "trannyfags should be lined up and shot.", that's the direct quote..

He didn't say "People who sexually abuse children should be prosecuted and punished according to the law with the death penalty", he said "trannyfags should be lined up and shot"..

And he had the opportunity to edit and/or clearify his comment to avoid misunderstandings for several days, but he didn't, he instead replied with "cry about it.."..

Also, notice how the comment was eventually removed after several days? Since this is a free-speech community where comments aren't normally removed, I think even the mods disagreed with your interpretation..

If 20% of child predators drank frisca and only 1% of normal people drank frisca I would not want my children around frisca drinkers.

Ok but does this not prove that your thinking is completely irrational/illogical and entirely guided by emotions?

If 20% of child predators drank frisca and only 1% of normal people drank frisca, my immediate thought would not be "frisca is causing people to become child predators so I need to keep my kids away from them", that would be ridiculous.. It would be "why is there a correlation between frisca drinking and child abusing?"..

If you don't apply simple logic and only rely on irrational emotional reasoning, you might as well argue that all men should be imprisoned because the vast majority of violent crimes is committed by men.

Trannies are overwhelmingly sexual predators.

The idea that members of the LGBT community is tied to pedophilia has been around for decades, if not centuries, without any evidence to support it. It used to be gay men that were accused of being pedos and child abusers, now it's trans people.

Fucking young people today, they just don't want to work, that's why we can't find any employees /s

You have got to be trolling, you cannot possible believe that this makes any logical sense..

Most child predators drink water. Do you drink water?

Troons are officially diagnosed with a mental illness.

So "mental illness = groomer", that's your logic?

Also Nazis are not conservative. They are socialist faggots.

Right, I'm sure that's true in your little fantasy world..

Sure, and conservatives are mostly racists and Nazis, right?

You generalize people like that you don't need to wonder why people generalize you..

The fact that you equate LGBT people with "groomers" and pedophilia does not give me much hope that this will ever be a place to be taken seriously.

Seems more like a locker room full of 14 year old wannabe edge lords or a call of duty lobby than anything else..

Those are dedicated free speech communities

If the speech is free, why does it seem like 90% of the posts are about LGBT stuff? I'm on this server because I want to know the opinions of right wingers, but it seems like people here are completely obsessed with the LGBT community and "the left".