Its another classic case of Muphry's Law.

The funny thing is that LM seems to be a bit of a techbro libertarian based on some of his Twitter activity. The right wing could claim him if they wanted to, but they've chosen to complain that it's the people who are out of touch.

S is for South Africa, which is a largely English-speaking country. Although we've still got quite a bit of headassery going on. India also has English as an official language. But we could use more Europeans -- come join us!

We saw a naval officer relieved of command for having the scope backwards on his rifle.

Well in that case, it was just a matter of bad optics.

Know Your Meme's page on Loss.

Basically, a 2000s webcomic about gamer culture devoted a comic (titled Loss) to the writer's partner who had a miscarriage. It's four wordless panels, and the characters in each panel take up roughly the positions of the rectangles in the OP.

Tonally, it was the complete opposite of what the webcomic normally covered, and it really shocked its readers who, being an internet community, responded with irony and parody, and now there are a ton of Loss references out there.

According to Wikipedia: "Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about....?") is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense against the original accusation."

under Republican leadership the situation would likely be worse

...doesn't address the original argument.

I think your original comment works to point out that Republicans wouldn't have a foot to stand on if they were to criticise Democrats for being pro-genocide, but it's not a proper defence of Democrats being pro-genocide or hypocritical.

Again with the guilt! This is a strawman. Can someone else tap in? I'm done for now.

Pug, if you're really looking for answers, consider removing your moral glasses and just look at what people have had taken from them and what they're asking for. Beyond all the emotion and defensiveness and outrage and morality, people are asking for really reasonable things

I'm not a European, so you're wrong there bud.

But more importantly, my identity is with the people I share a culture with. I'm first a South African, then a bunch of stuff, and one thing down the line is white.

You're right that I'm the beneficiary of a racist system. The difference is that I have no issues with affirmative action or redress. You criticising me for being white and for decolonisation is like when people criticise Bernie Sanders for being rich and supporting higher taxes. It's a stupid, reductive non-starter of an argument.

Now that my race is out of the way. My country has been looted by European countries, and it continues to be looted by extractive imperialism. Why can't I ask them to pay us back? Where is the contradiction?

As for making amends = helping, most people would disagree. That's a dumb assertion.

Apparently, otherwise we would have begun the work of dismantling Western imperialism.

Do you think there should be a limit?

I personally think we should work to redress the wrongs we can, and in this case, the West could be doing a lot more to fix their crimes and being a lot less uppity about it.

What's the disconnect? Do you generally call paying back a debt 'helping the collector'?

The last time Europe "helped" Africans, it didn't work out so well for us. Instead of helping us, they could just pay the nation back what they took + reparations. South Africa isn't a classroom for beneficiaries of colonialism, it's an active crime scene caused by them.

And as a white South African, I can assure you we aren't in any danger. And collapsing again? When was the first time?

On the other hand, you're right: it's not a big deal. I give this take a 1/5.