[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago
  1. Not having any coherent politics to start with, which means they had to grasp for something when they realized juvenile shit like libertarianism falls apart under the slightest pressure; and
  2. Not giving a shit about poor people.
[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

What percentage of vets would you estimate are persuadable?

That's what I see as the central question here: if a group of people can be convinced to become leftists, we should be working with them regardless of whether it's difficult. We're not going anywhere unless we get literally tens of millions of more people on our side, and not all of those people are going to be perfect.

[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

Note that a few comments up I've already said killing someone over this is wrong. No one is arguing that people should get the death penalty for drawing Muhammad. The argument is that you're a huge asshole if you do, because there's no reason to do it besides pissing people off.

[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

You realize christianity and islam are almost precisely the same fucking thing, right?

Bit of an oversimplification there

[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

But I wear red plenty now, so it would at least be somewhat of a burden to remember not to wear red on Tuesdays. It's not a burden at all to not draw Muhammed because I never draw him anyway.

It's the going out of one's way to be as offensive as possible that makes this asshole behavior. No one's ordinary routine is being disrupted, no one's being even slightly inconvenienced.

[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

i literally do not give a fuck what is offensive

eat my entire ass

fuck off

Civility at the expense of accomplishing something real is bullshit, but man, you're not going to get very far with very many people if you're just an outright asshole.

[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

i have every right if i did want to

Yes, that's exactly the "fuck you I do what I want" mentality I was criticizing. That makes you a massive piece of shit, even if you're technically free to do it.

You shouldn't be a massive piece of shit, and you certainly aren't accomplishing anything if you choose to be one. You should be a decent human being.

[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

seeing you get all worked up about such a benign topic

This ain't it

[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

Wishing bad things happen to bad people is OK

[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

There's a chance it's for the better.

spoilerIn the book, Paul does everything he can to avoid the jihad he sees coming, because jihad = religious fanaticism = bad. A crusade is also religious fanaticism and is also bad, but portraying the term "crusade" as an evil to be avoided could be a good thing for an American audience. Crusades are a part of Christian culture, and if you're going to write religious criticism there's less of a risk of it being misinterpreted if you use the audience's dominant religion as an example. If you criticize religious fanaticism using the religion of the Other, it's easy to interpret that as nothing more than "Other bad."

Plus, we're almost guaranteed to get some Christian chuds throwing a fit over it, especially with the rise of right-wing "crusade" imagery. That's always good for a laugh.

Spoilers for a book that came out half a century ago, I guess.

[-] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

Of Christian extremists in Alabama??

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