multitotal

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[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

they very well could be getting training in the US bases the SDF hosts or getting weapons through them.

You can't just say things like that without evidence. If you claim ISIS is training on DAANES territory, then you should back that claim up.

I have a problem with the "US stooge" label. We can recognise Rojava cooperates with the US, we can say they receive help, money, training, weapons... but we don't have to rob Rojava of agency. Why can't cooperation with the US be a temporary, necessary measure on their part, rather than an essential quality?

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 5 months ago

Separately, the Syrian Ministry of Petroleum and Mineral Resources called on all workers in production sites to return to their workplaces starting Tuesday.

HTS and Turkey are stealing Syria's oil.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

According to some, SDF should surrender and let the invisible hand of communism protect them. lmao

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

You can replace the Israeli flag with Turkey's flag and the meme would still be valid.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 5 months ago

You are doing a textbook example of DARVO with what you are saying. Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender

No, I am not.

You deliberately manipulated the narrative to make yourself seem like an innocent victim of a horrible person and lazy/horrible mods.

No, I didn't. Where did I mention myself as being the victim? I think you're arguing against someone else here...

You didn’t actually give anyone any context and acted as if your word alone is good enough to start a witch hunt.

I did though. I copied the whole "tl;dr". How can the person ranting about China be relevant to whether or not Kurds should be ethnically cleansed from northern Syria?

You wanted to see the "context" because apparently calling for genocide as part of a longer discussion isn't as bad as outright calling for it. I don't understand the logic.

I’m glad that people don’t fall for your manipulative tactics. I’m just calling them out for what they are.

The only person manipulating here is you. You accuse me of a million things. So far you have not said 1 thing in defense of the person saying what I quoted in my post. Is it because you know its indefensible so you attack me instead?

if the person you are talking about said the things they did

doesn't fit with

you didn’t actually provide any context for the conversation.

They did say the things, you've probably read the comment by now. I don't know why you're saying "if" when it is something we can all see with our eyes.

Are we judging what they said or the context in which they said it in? Ironic that Kurds receiving help from the US is bad no matter how you look at it (context be damned!), but once someone gets called out for calling Rojava to be "wiped from the map" suddenly context matters. lmao

I'm just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy.

This could’ve been a productive discussion, instead you try to manipulate people into some kind of “mob justice” against your perceived enemies.

"WHY DIDN'T YOU POST THE LINK?!?!"

"NOOOO! WHY DID YOU POST THE LINK?!THAT'S MOB JUSTICE!!"

Your post is full of contradictions, strawmen, projection, hypocrisy and lying. Everything you accuse me of in your post, you're doing yourself.

Then you top it off with pure insults after I have not said a single mean thing to you. Then you have the audacity to say "fuck you". I feel sorry for anyone who has to tolerate you.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You DARVO losers always follow the same pattern. You put words in everyone else's mouth. You present...

You have zero self awareness, you assume I am a part of some group, then go on to assume what I supposedly do, only to then say that I am actually the one doing the assuming. That's gaslighting.

Can you argue a point without implying that the person to whom you're speaking is part of a conspiracy?

I don't even know what DARVO is.

You present your enemies as the worst people on earth and allow no discussion of the topic

Zero self-awareness. This all started because someone said Rojava were the worst people on Earth, who should be wiped out, and then refused to discuss it.

Fuck off with that shit, it has no place here.

Stop your attempts at browbeating. Your whole comment literally applies to you, but you lack the self-awareness to see it.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They also say HTS should be wiped off the map

As an afterthought edit. Because clearly they saw it as a way to push Turkey's talking points onto this forum.

They just wish Rojava didn’t exist as an organization.

No, they're not. They also referred to people of Rojava as "terrorists". Only country who calls them that is Turkey.

Doesn’t mean they want to kill all Sunni Muslims in Syria.

Actually, SNA/HTS are sunni, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas are shia.

In fact OP is making the same argument that Israel makes when accusing its critics of antisemitism.

WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

  1. To equate the two is to say that Palestinians want to genocide/ethnically cleanse Israel, when that is not true. Meanwhile SNA is already running a terror campaign in the areas they control.

  2. To equate the two is saying that just like the Kurds in northern Syria and Iraq, Israeli nationals/settlers are native/indigenous to Israel. This is also not true.

What is true though, is that Turkey has used the same rhetoric against PKK/SDF/YPG/Kurds as Israel uses against Palestinians. Turkey calls them terrorists and uses that to justify invading north Syria and killing civilians.

So the people of Rojava and the Kurds are more akin to the Palestinians and Turkey and the Turkish-backed forces are more akin to Israel.

Thank you for bringing that up, now my position is even more clear and justified.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 5 months ago

My first thoughts are: what do you and they mean by Rojava?

The person I was talking about calls the people of Rojava "terrorists" and then says they're gleeful about "what's coming to them". The only country that calls SDF/YPG/Rojava/Kurds terrorists is Turkey.

Forgive me if I don’t care about racist terrorists who are literally tearing my home piece by piece. They wanted assad gone for so long, well now they have it.

...

I'm going to be gleeful that terrorists are reaping what they’re sowing.

We have a person literally advocating for Turkey (a founding member NATO state) to ethnically cleanse Kurds from Rojava (because they are terrorists), but that's alright, cause SDF took money from the US.

Rojava is not "tearing [Syria] piece by peace", they are actually defending Syria's integrity against Turkish invasion. Yet this person doesn't see it that way, why is that so? Perhaps he thinks Turkey has the right to go in and ethnically cleanse Kurds.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It is precisely what I claim it is. What does tl;dr mean? "too long; didn't read" tl;dr is a summary of one's points and arguments. Anything before a tl;dr isn't necessary to understand the tl;dr by definition.

The person summarised their own words into a tl;dr, unprompted. How can you blame me for that?

You're just looking for an excuse to defend calls for ethnic cleansing because you happen to agree with it.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

the same way saying Israel should be wiped out is a call for genocide against Jewish people?

Not a good comparison, Kurds/people of Rojava are native/indigenous to northern Syria and Iraq.

You're framing the issue wrong. Palestinians don't want to genocide Israelis, while SNA/HTS/Tutkey do want to ethnically cleanse the Kurds, because much like Israel believes all Palestinians are Hamas, so Turkey thinks all Kurds are terrorists.

 

The only honest reporting coming from the West is made by two kids with a camera. That's the state of MSM media today.

 
 

b's analysis:

I doubt that he will be able to close down the war in 24 hours, as he had promised. I rather think that he will escalate it.

Trump will likely select (neo-conservative) hawks to run his defense and foreign policies. They will take all possible measures, even against Trump's declared will, to keep the war going. For them it is down to the last Ukrainian, then down to the last European - if only to show that the U.S. will never give up.

To cover for this Trump and his acolytes may well offer an immediate ceasefire. But that will not work.

The war will go on. Russia will have to, as Gordon Hahn predicts, cross the Dnieper, retake Odessa and threaten Kiev. Zelenski is unlikely to politically survive such a situation.

Only a direct intervention by NATO, could be able to change that trajectory. That however would likely expand the war into a global contest that not even Trump's hawks will want to pursue.

I am actually hoping Trump follows up on his promise of ending the war quickly, by stopping the weapons deliveries and money, and forces Zelenskyy to negotiate with Russia. Trump is a populist and I am pretty sure his staff is feeding him correct information on the opinions on the war: most Americans are cooling off it with a large number against it, Germany is in chaos, EU is out of equipment/ammo to send. It is obvious that the US needs to continue providing the bulk of the support, which Trump, if he wants to be popular, won't do.

Sounds ridiculous, but Putin just needs to offer Trump something good. lol

 
 
 

War is peace.

 

Ukraine's plan is to start WW3 at any cost, US is obviously not falling for it. For all their gusto, the warhawks in the US aren't going to see their cities nuked for fucking Ukraine.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6007978

I'm surprised there haven't been posts about it (or at least I haven't seen them on all the usual suspect communities). My guess is that people are hesitant to call it out in case the story turns out to be true, but I have no such qualms.

How it started

It started when Kyiv Independent quoted a "Western source" that the DPRK has sent 10.000 troops to Russia,. The Western media then ran with the story and said Ukrainian intelligence believes DPRK soldiers are sent to Russia. Once Zelenskyy started talking about it that was good enough for Western media to accept it as fact. I can't find the article now, but I distinctly remember a headline saying "Zelenskyy confirms North Korean soldiers fighting for Russia", they must have changed the headline because of how it sounds. I need to remember to take more screenshots.

At the same time as this story was "breaking", the Western media ran a parallel story about how the DPRK soldiers have already fled their positions. Of course, no videos or pictures of these "deserting soldiers" were ever posted or shared. The Western audience believes these things because they want to believe them to be true.

Racist undertones

Ukraine+Western media are saying that Russia is going to use the DPRK troops to form a Buryat battalion. Buryat people are a distinct ethnicities within the Russian Federation. Ukrainian intelligence services have no doubt chosen the name "Buryat battalion" because in low quality videos and photos Western audiences are not expected to know the difference between a Buryat soldier and a Korean soldier. They are also claiming the Koreans are receiving Russian passports, documents, etc. so if they ever come across the bodies of dead Buryat soldiers they can just claim those are actually DPRK soldiers.

How it's going

The latest "evidence" posted of these supposed DPRK soldiers "fighting for" Russia is two videos without a date or location, but purportedly from Russia's far east. In both videos you can hear Korean being spoken. In one video they are outside training, and in the other they are receiving Russian uniforms.

The Western media can't even get their story straight though. First they reported that South Korea's intelligence has said 12000 DPRK soldiers are fighting for Ukraine but then they revised their story to say 1500 DPRK troops are fighting for Russia. If you look at the CNN url, you will see that it still says "12000 troops", although the title and the body of the article have changed.

Why are they saying this?

It is obvious that Zelenskyy & Co. are trying to present this as an escalation and evidence that this is becoming a "world war". The fact that Ukraine has been supported by countries from around the world is irrelevant. They claim 1500 DPRK citizens getting Russian uniforms is a big problem, yet when some 20.000+ mercenaries from the West received Ukrainian uniforms that was actually wholesome big chungus move.

Regardless of the reality, most people in the West now think that DPRK soldiers are actually fighting Ukraine on the ground, despite the fact that "NATO has not confirmed that thousands of North Korean troops are preparing to join the war, Secretary-General Mark Rutte said on Thursday."

But what if the Western media turns out to be right, and there are DPRK soldiers fighting in Ukraine?

I'm happy to say that this story is bullshit because what are 1500 soldiers going to do for Russia? Russia supposedly has some 400k soldiers in Ukraine right now. According to Ukraine+Western media, Russia suffers 1000-1200 casualties a day, so DPRK just sent them a day's worth of fighting force.

But even if that were true (and it isn't), it's not a big deal. Where was the outrage six months ago when Macron said he is considering sending French troops to Ukraine? People don't seem to understand that nobody is stopping individual countries like Poland, Estonia, Latvia, etc. to send troops to Ukraine. It won't trigger Article 5 and it won't drag NATO into war. But no country wants to do it, and no country will do it in response to 1500 supposed DPRK troops being sent there.

If DPRK troops are indeed in Russia and Ukraine, then they are there probably for training, education or to oversee the transfer and use of the artillery ammunition they had sent to Russia earlier. NATO has thousands of its own personnel working in Ukraine, in addition to all the spooks and spies.

The media loves this story because now it's Ukraine "alone" versus Russia, Iran, China and North Korea. It feeds into their underdog story, which only works if they completely ignore all the assistance Ukraine received from the West from the start of this war.

 

I'm surprised there haven't been posts about it (or at least I haven't seen them on all the usual suspect communities). My guess is that people are hesitant to call it out in case the story turns out to be true, but I have no such qualms.

How it started

It started when Kyiv Independent quoted a "Western source" that the DPRK has sent 10.000 troops to Russia,. The Western media then ran with the story and said Ukrainian intelligence believes DPRK soldiers are sent to Russia. Once Zelenskyy started talking about it that was good enough for Western media to accept it as fact. I can't find the article now, but I distinctly remember a headline saying "Zelenskyy confirms North Korean soldiers fighting for Russia", they must have changed the headline because of how it sounds. I need to remember to take more screenshots.

At the same time as this story was "breaking", the Western media ran a parallel story about how the DPRK soldiers have already fled their positions. Of course, no videos or pictures of these "deserting soldiers" were ever posted or shared. The Western audience believes these things because they want to believe them to be true.

Racist undertones

Ukraine+Western media are saying that Russia is going to use the DPRK troops to form a Buryat battalion. Buryat people are a distinct ethnicities within the Russian Federation. Ukrainian intelligence services have no doubt chosen the name "Buryat battalion" because in low quality videos and photos Western audiences are not expected to know the difference between a Buryat soldier and a Korean soldier. They are also claiming the Koreans are receiving Russian passports, documents, etc. so if they ever come across the bodies of dead Buryat soldiers they can just claim those are actually DPRK soldiers.

How it's going

The latest "evidence" posted of these supposed DPRK soldiers "fighting for" Russia is two videos without a date or location, but purportedly from Russia's far east. In both videos you can hear Korean being spoken. In one video they are outside training, and in the other they are receiving Russian uniforms.

The Western media can't even get their story straight though. First they reported that South Korea's intelligence has said 12000 DPRK soldiers are fighting for Russia in Ukraine but then they revised their story to say 1500 DPRK troops are fighting for Russia. If you look at the CNN url, you will see that it still says "12000 troops", although the title and the body of the article have changed.

Why are they saying this?

It is obvious that Zelenskyy & Co. are trying to present this as an escalation and evidence that this is becoming a "world war". The fact that Ukraine has been supported by countries from around the world is irrelevant. They claim 1500 DPRK citizens getting Russian uniforms is a big problem, yet when some 20.000+ mercenaries from the West received Ukrainian uniforms that was actually wholesome big chungus move.

Regardless of the reality, most people in the West now think that DPRK soldiers are actually fighting Ukraine on the ground, despite the fact that "NATO has not confirmed that thousands of North Korean troops are preparing to join the war, Secretary-General Mark Rutte said on Thursday."

But what if the Western media turns out to be right, and there are DPRK soldiers fighting in Ukraine?

I'm happy to say that this story is bullshit because what are 1500 soldiers going to do for Russia? Russia supposedly has some 400k soldiers in Ukraine right now. According to Ukraine+Western media, Russia suffers 1000-1200 casualties a day, so DPRK just sent them a day's worth of fighting force.

But even if that were true (and it isn't), it's not a big deal. Where was the outrage six months ago when Macron said he is considering sending French troops to Ukraine? People don't seem to understand that nobody is stopping individual countries like Poland, Estonia, Latvia, etc. to send troops to Ukraine. It won't trigger Article 5 and it won't drag NATO into war. But no country wants to do it, and no country will do it in response to 1500 supposed DPRK troops being sent there.

If DPRK troops are indeed in Russia and Ukraine, then they are there probably for training, education or to oversee the transfer and use of the artillery ammunition they had sent to Russia earlier. NATO has thousands of its own personnel working in Ukraine, in addition to all the spooks and spies.

The media loves this story because now it's Ukraine "alone" versus Russia, Iran, China and North Korea. It feeds into their underdog story, which only works if they completely ignore all the assistance Ukraine received from the West from the start of this war.

 
 

British counterterrorism police on Thursday raided the home and seized several electronic devices belonging to The Electronic Intifada’s associate editor Asa Winstanley.

Approximately 10 officers arrived at Winstanley’s North London home before 6 am and served the journalist with warrants and other papers authorizing them to search his house and vehicle for devices and documents.

A letter addressed to Winstanley from the “Counter Terrorism Command” of the Metropolitan Police Service indicates that the authorities are “aware of your profession” as a journalist but that “notwithstanding, police are investigating possible offenses” under sections 1 and 2 of the Terrorism Act (2006). These provisions set out the purported offense of “encouragement of terrorism.”

An officer conducting Thursday’s raid informed Winstanley that the investigation was connected with the journalist’s social media posts. Attempts to reach the Metropolitan Police Service for comment for this story have been unsuccessful.

Although his devices were seized, Winstanley was not arrested and has not been charged with any offense.

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