[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve seen lots of people say “federation is like email”, but to me it’s like Usenet.

You are correct but since 99.99% of people do not know what usenet is, it would be a pointless analogy. :) To be more specific than federation being like usenet: usenet was/is federated.

A couple years ago I was telling a 20something about usenet and I started to explain it the same way I always have: "It's like an email discussion list---" but I was interrupted for a question: "what's an email discussion list?" And this was a person who would describe themselves as geeky and good with computers. But has had no reason to interact with ancient techs like mailman. So first I had to explain what is an email list, which actually my friend thought sounded like a great idea. But having no experience of it, the ways in which usenet is an improvement were slightly lost.

[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago

the the Usenet server doesn’t matter at all like a Fedverse server does.

this is totally not the case. your usenet server mattered a lot and some people would even pay to subscribe to servers in addition to what was provided by their ISP to access all the content they were interested in.

usenet was a federated forum where messages were exchanged between servers with relationships with each other. Sometimes there would be no server connection between you and another user. So you would see replies directed at a person but you would never see their posts directly. The situation could be mutual, or not. Some servers would send messages to anyone who asked but only pick up from their chosen sources. IME the more physically remote someone was, the more likely there would be hiccups in communication.

also servers would pick and choose what groups they would even pick up. it was a whole thing.

On usenet there was no one central "truth" or baseline. Everyone was always working with pieces.

[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago

Usenet arose during a time when the people using computers actually understood how they worked and how to use them.

Well. Usenet arose during a time when computers were only available to people who were all or most of the following: wealthy, white, formally educated at the post secondary level, professionally employed, affiliated with a western university, fluent in English, male, associated with the "defense" industry. Presumably most people who were on Usenet in 1980 had a good understanding of the technology.

But you sound as though you are being nostalgic for this extremely exclusionary time in computing. Having been in rooms as described above, it is not as interesting as you'd think. Homogeneous. Rigid. Boooring.

Asking someone to download and install a Usenet client then set it up to connect to a server of their choice and then subscribing to newsgroups is way above and beyond what most people are willing to do in 2023, sadly.

Why would anyone do that in 2023 when usenet is full of spam. It would only be an academic exercise unless you are looking to download pirated content. In which case usenet is quite a popular choice. Usenet's traffic has increased steadily year over year as it has transitioned into a media sharing platform. But you mean the forum side of things. Probably because you yourself have "sadly" not done any of the things you are crying about other people not doing you are not even sure what is going on.

Expanding on this, I’m worried a technological education gap is forming among the youth.

It's off topic but on this you are correct from what I understand. I can't find in my bookmarks right now but I recall having read some research about how younger people (b >~2000) lack understandings of things like file systems and other computer basics. In their experience these things have always been very obscured. So they are very good at the things they have experience with, but actual understanding of "computers" is minimal.

[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago

It's a work-to-rule. What people thought might happen is that reddit would decide it wasn't worth fighting over and back down.

With the information available the outset, and in the context of limited organization of those who wished to fight back, I don't think it was unreasonable.

[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago
  1. why is this posted to RedditMigration@kbin.social?

  2. what is going on in the commments?

[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago
  1. where would "home" be?

  2. why is "home" a good place for them to be? who are the other people populating "home" and what do you think of them?

  3. slogans on the theme of "go home" are widely and imho rightly associated with racists

  4. what is a TANKIE to you?

[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago

I pretty much agree with the caveats here.

I did find it very annoying on reddit when occasionally I or someone else made a post who's title contained an error. Could be a simple thing like a typo, or a wrong/misleading assumption/assertion.You don't want to fully delete the post because the discussion is useful, but you know people will see it as they scroll without opening the discussion, and will have the wrong idea.

OTOH I think there is a high probability of abuse/misuse of changed titles. I am 55% in favor of a no title changing policy. However with a FLOSS federated platform such a policy would prob be impossible to enforce because certainly some admins would have a patch or something to allow it.

I would propose that original titles be prominently displayed in strikethrough text everywhere the title is displayed. This might be annoying enough to develop a norm of not changing unless needed. Might be some intentional jokes but maybe avoid the flagrant abuse.

[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago

i am not sure how notifications work here but i made a response a couple levels down

[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago

/r/ATBGE was amazing. a place where you could see something unimaginable every day. it truly inspired me.

[-] quickleft 1 points 1 year ago

“It's crucial, in fact, for the public's perception of the justice system to be one that is of faith that we're actually delivering justice. And when we recognize that we didn't, that we go back and we fix it,” McCarty said.

Quite a statement with broad implications if even somewhat implemented.

To do it right would require setting up a whole secondary justice system to double check the work of the first. So many people would be uncharged that reintegration and employment of the formerly incarecerated would be a big deal. Also the retraining of prision staff to perform some other job as much fewer would be required.

All in all it is doable and should be done but a hard row to hoe politically.

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