Lots of tiktoks can be downloaded easily, but still, they can be large, why send those around when you can just send a link

Yes! It's called Jevons paradox

I remember being like that when I was learning, I literally couldn't get problems out of my head, my brain would be trying to solve a code issue while I'm trying to sleep.

Now I do it everyday it's learnt to just switch off when I'm done for the day (most of the time).

Are we supposed to be comforted about the timeline being decades? That's generations alive today.

Scientists are also finding their estimates getting outpaced alarmingly often right now.

The Russia Ukraine war has disrupted civilisation quite significantly with 6 million refugees. We could see over 1 BILLION climate refugees by 2050. 1000 MILLION people having to leave their homes.

We are on course for significant disruption to food supply before 1.5C warming. Doesn't matter how rich your country is, with global food supplies low and that maybe people on the move, civilisation as we know it will change significantly. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/12/global-heating-likely-to-hit-world-food-supply-faster-than-expected-says-united-nations-desertification-expert

To be clear: I am not a doomerist. Don't dwell on this and do nothing. Get angry! This is being done to you. This was not inevitable, it was the decisions of the most powerful and richest people in the world. Get out there and take action, the movement needs you.

Not really true, the evidence shows the popularity of the group may go down but concern over the issue goes up.

Tell us a better way that hasn't already been tried, one that's proportional to the urgency. Genuinely open to ideas.

The suffragettes were more than annoying, they blew stuff up and burnt down buildings and they were effective.

For anyone annoyed by climate activists: wake the hell up. LISTEN to the message.

We are on course for an UNLIVABLE FUTURE. A BILLION climate refugees, mass crop failures, cities under water, temperatures too hot for human survival. Economic and societal collapse.

These disruptions damage nothing and inconvenience a small amount of people for 5-30 minutes. It's not a big deal. In a world of reactionary social media and news, these are the tactics that get attention. It is not the activist's fault for how the media reports it.

This is not "their cause". This is the fight for everything we know and love.

If you don't like what they're doing, start doing what you think works.

If and when protests turn violent because people are desperate and there's nothing else left you'll realise how innocuous these types of protests are. They hurt nobody, disrupt people for a very short time and get the message out there.

This idea that it's funded by big oil is just ridiculous. I am in activism and I know people from JSO, they are some of the kindest and caring people you could meet. They understand the urgency of the crisis and are willing to their bodies and freedom on the line to get the message out. Being popular is not their goal, they get people talking and that is undeniable.

"Their shit" being the words of thousands of climate scientists from hundreds of countries, the UN, the International Energy Agency etc etc. Wake up.

You're right that exposure in the news has gone up due to the extreme weather events, I have still seen reports highlighting the fires and floods and failing to mention the climate crisis in them. But they still don't bring on climate scientists and they still don't make people aware we are on track for mass crop failures, a billion climate refugees, millions of climate deaths that put together means collapse of our society as we know it.

Even if people don't talk about JSOs demand (which is entirely reasonable and backed by the science, btw), they know why these people out there. They also know they feel strongly enough about it to get shouted abuse, risk getting assaulted and get arrested. That does get through to people.

Please stop calling it "their cause", it's yours too.

People willing to give up their freedoms and liberty to raise the alarm that we're on course for millions of deaths and collapse of society = worthless rats. Got it.

Of course more people would be on their side if they knew the collapse of society was at stake! And more people are on their side, where do you think all these people slow marching keep coming from?

If anyone is "actively against them" then the media is failing to properly inform. We are talking about the end of civilisation as we know it, this is not "their cause", this affects every single person on earth.

It's not true that "everybody talks about it anyway". They don't. It's rarely spoken about with the candor required. When was the last time you saw a climate scientist on the news?

As long as awareness of the crisis goes up (which it does), then Just Stop Oil popularity doesn't matter.