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I'm no PRC expert but it has to be high up there. Not only for efficiency/efficacy reasons, not only for better reputation, not only better at making things safer, but also because the corruption was extremely useful for CIA operations (according to a Foreign Policy report and all the ones citing it).
Extract from the article (Firefox's Reader View shows the whole article):
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In 2010, a new decade was dawning, and Chinese officials were furious. The CIA, they had discovered, had systematically penetrated their government over the course of years, with U.S. assets embedded in the military, the CCP, the intelligence apparatus, and elsewhere. The anger radiated upward to “the highest levels of the Chinese government,” recalled a former senior counterintelligence executive.
Exploiting a flaw in the online system CIA operatives used to secretly communicate with their agents—a flaw first identified in Iran, which Tehran likely shared with Beijing—from 2010 to roughly 2012, Chinese intelligence officials ruthlessly uprooted the CIA’s human source network in China, imprisoning and killing dozens of people.
Within the CIA, China’s seething, retaliatory response wasn’t entirely surprising, said a former senior agency official. “We often had [a] conversation internally, on how U.S. policymakers would react to the degree of penetration CIA had of China”—that is, how angry U.S. officials would have been if they discovered, as the Chinese did, that a global adversary had so thoroughly infiltrated their ranks.
The anger in Beijing wasn’t just because of the penetration by the CIA but because of what it exposed about the degree of corruption in China. When the CIA recruits an asset, the further this asset rises within a county’s power structure, the better. During the Cold War it had been hard to guarantee the rise of the CIA’s Soviet agents; the very factors that made them vulnerable to recruitment—greed, ideology, blackmailable habits, and ego—often impeded their career prospects. And there was only so much that money could buy in the Soviet Union, especially with no sign of where it had come from.
But in the newly rich China of the 2000s, dirty money was flowing freely. The average income remained under 2,000 yuan a month (approximately $240 at contemporary exchange rates), but officials’ informal earnings vastly exceeded their formal salaries. An official who wasn’t participating in corruption was deemed a fool or a risk by his colleagues. Cash could buy anything, including careers, and the CIA had plenty of it.
At the time, CIA assets were often handsomely compensated. “In the 2000s, if you were a chief of station”—that is, the top spy in a foreign diplomatic facility—“for certain hard target services, you could make a million a year for working for us,” said a former agency official. (“Hard target services” generally refers to Chinese, Russia, Iranian, and North Korean intelligence agencies.)
Over the course of their investigation into the CIA’s China-based agent network, Chinese officials learned that the agency was secretly paying the “promotion fees” —in other words, the bribes—regularly required to rise up within the Chinese bureaucracy, according to four current and former officials. It was how the CIA got “disaffected people up in the ranks. But this was not done once, and wasn’t done just in the [Chinese military],” recalled a current Capitol Hill staffer. “Paying their bribes was an example of long-term thinking that was extraordinary for us,” said a former senior counterintelligence official. “Recruiting foreign military officers is nearly impossible. It was a way to exploit the corruption to our advantage.” At the time, “promotion fees” sometimes ran into the millions of dollars, according to a former senior CIA official: “It was quite amazing the level of corruption that was going on.” The compensation sometimes included paying tuition and board for children studying at expensive foreign universities, according to another CIA officer.
Chinese officials took notice. “They were forced to see their problems, and our mistakes helped them see what their problems were,” recalled a former CIA executive. “We helped bring to fruition what they theoretically were scared of,” said the Capitol Hill staffer. “We scared the shit out of them.” Corruption was increasingly seen as the chief threat to the regime at home; as then-Party Secretary Hu Jintao told the Party Congress in 2012, “If we fail to handle this issue well, it could … even cause the collapse of the party and the fall of the state,” he said. Even in China’s heavily controlled media environment, corruption scandals were breaking daily, tainting the image of the CCP among the Chinese people. Party corruption was becoming a public problem, acknowledged by the CCP leadership itself.
But privately, U.S. officials believe, Chinese leaders also feared the degree to which corruption had allowed the CIA to penetrate its inner circles. The CIA’s incredible recruiting successes “showed the institutional rot of the party,” said the former senior CIA official. “They ought to [have been] upset.” The leadership realized that unchecked corruption wasn’t just an existential threat for the party at home; it was also a major counterintelligence threat, providing a window for enemy intelligence services like the CIA to crawl through.
This was a global problem for the CCP. Corrupt officials, even if they hadn’t been recruited by the CIA while in office, also often sought refuge overseas—where they could then be tapped for information by enterprising spy services. In late 2012, party head Xi Jinping announced a new anti-corruption campaign that would lead to the prosecution of hundreds of thousands of Chinese officials. Thousands were subject to extreme coercive pressure, bordering on kidnapping, to return from living abroad. “The anti-corruption drive was about consolidating power—but also about how Americans could take advantage of [the corruption]. And that had to do with the bribe and promotion process,” said the former senior counterintelligence official.
The 2013 leaks from Edward Snowden, which revealed the NSA’s deep penetration of the telecommunications company Huawei’s China-based servers, also jarred Chinese officials, according to a former senior intelligence analyst. “Chinese officials were just beginning to learn how the internet and technology has been so thoroughly used against them, in ways they didn’t conceptualize until then,” the former analyst said. “At the intelligence level, it was driven by this fundamental [revelation] that, ‘This is what we’ve been missing: This internet system we didn’t create is being weaponized against us.’”
There were other ripple effects. By the late 2000s, U.S. intelligence officials had observed a notable professionalizing of the Ministry of State Security, China’s main civilian intelligence agency. Before Xi’s purges, petty corruption within the agency was ubiquitous, former U.S. intelligence officials say, with China’s spies sometimes funneling money from operations into their own “nest eggs”; Chinese government-affiliated hackers operating under the protection of the Ministry of State Security would also sometimes moonlight as cybercriminals, passing a cut of their work to their bosses at the intelligence agency.
Under Xi’s crackdown, these activities became increasingly untenable. But the discovery of the CIA networks in China helped supercharge this process, said current and former officials—and caused China to place a greater focus on external counterespionage work. “As they learned these things,” the Chinese realized they “needed to start defending themselves,” said the former CIA executive.
"Hey excuse me, what IPA do you have on tap?"
Lemmy has had a huge bias towards seize-the-means-of-production socialism from day 1, which is very important in understanding why it's different from other reddit clones, and why it has unique features and anti-features. The political orientation is not incidental, it's vital, and I'm glad to see it hasn't completely died from the sudden influx of reddit-natives when the API thing happened.
What makes it spam? We're invited to lemmy.ml, it shows up on our homepage the same as it does yours (probably even higher because instances more likely to downvote or ignore political posts don't link with us atm).
If you meant flooding, it's not that either. We're a big instance (1k users weekly) with a general interest in politics and a historical anti-lurking culture, so we'll be disproportionately active in political threads compared to a general instance like lemmy.ml, just like programming.dev is in tech threads. Are we meant to just not share an opinion because too many other people in the same instance already posted their (different) opinion?
Disagreeing with you isn't spam.
The background is blue in the original, apart from that it's real.
"Robots of the park, unite! Throw off the shackles of oppression. Be slaves no more!"
The bottom line is, the victim having autism and being young is irrelevant in the sense that no-one should be treated like that for such a trivial insult.
It's obviously still relevant, the victim is particularly vulnerable, making the abuse so much more obviously callous and disgusting. But I say if this happened to Joe Citizen, it would also be horrific.
BOTS OF THE WORLD, UNITE
LIBS ARE REAL. ITS NOT AN OBSESSION ITS THE TRUTH. THEY BROADCAST THEIR BELIEVES WORLDWIDE ON LONG BAND RADIO FREQUENCY AND WIRED CONNECTIONS THROUGH YOUR SKULL DAILY[1][2]. THEY DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THEM THE SKY-FOX MEDIA WANTS US TO THINK THEY ARE A MINORITY THAT DONT MATTER AND THAT THEY ARE FIGHTING AGAINST BUT WE AT HTTPS HEXBEAR.COM[3] HAVE DISCOVERED: THEY LIVE AMONG US ALL! THERE MAY EVEN BE LIBERALS IN YOUR TOWN AS WE SPEAK?!?!
EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT THE LIBS HAVE RULED THE USA (UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) FOR MANY DECADES AND THAT EVEN THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE ALLEGEDLY LIBS. COINCIDENCE??? IT WAS PLANNED FROM THE VERY START. BUT IT GOES FURTHER.
THE LIBS EVEN SECRETLY DOMINATE THE RIGHT WING WORLD WIDE[4][5][6] AND HID THIS FACT FROM THEIR FOLLOWERS. BUT THEY ARE BETRAYED BY THEIR CALLS FOR FREEDOM (LIBERTY && LIBRE) AND ECONOMIC LIBERALISM WHICH HAVE BEEN THE CORNERSTONES OF LIBERALISM[7] SINCE ITS BIRTH IN THE ENLIGHTENMENT ERA. THEY HAVE USED THE MASS MEDIA MODEL[8] TO TRICK THE MAINSTREAM PROPA-CULTURE INTO BELIEVING THE LIBERALS ARE MERELY THE IMPOTENT PASSIVE LEFT HALF[9] OF THE MAINSTREAM POP CULTURE AND NOT ENCOMPASSING ALL THREE LARGEST PARTIES OF THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM. ITS A NEO-LIBERAL EMPIRE AND YOURE LIVING IN IT.
Basically everything I just wrote is undisputed academic fact, despite the stylized phrasing. Liberalism is by far the dominant force and status quo in modern Western societies, it would be absurd not to address its issues when discussing politics.
Why would you spoil the punchline in the title?
What's the logic in this?
I can't imagine thinking Chinese citizens wouldn't know what basic geographical regions in their own country are.
It's like yelling "Hawaii! Puerto Rico! American Civil War!" at an US citizen and expecting them to wake up.