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[–] xarm@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Also do you know what caused the protest?

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I will keep that in mind when marching off to burn the Parliament next time.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

yeah I guess I am bad at explaining my point. The pressure in Nepal was building up for a long time and it exploded with that revolt.

Well good luck to us then. Will be pretty funny if the the Juche party getting on top after this but probably not.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I did not meant to moralize but meant we should not to blame all of internal and systematic problem to US alone and recognize how liberal democracy was the reason for government failure. Even tho the government was formed with Marxist-Leninist party, its not really socialist in nature.

The Nepal government acting incompetent will lead to Nepal surrendering its sovereignity so am more mad at the government. If the reason behind the backlash had been some pro-monarchist protest instead of the student protest then they would have been in power. There even was a violent pro-monarchist protest few months ago and their activities had been increasing a lot so can easily imagine them leading the large instead of discord government. At least now their influence has died down since people are not constantly pissed off at the government.

I do not get the vibe this particular protest was due to western influence but assuming it is and acting on that basis is more safer option for communist parties here rather than just waiting for hard proof. A liberal government was overthrown and will probably be back to same situation but maybe some communist parties can gain more power too.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The only problem I have with the whole 'Color revolution' theory is the minimization of the government's incompetence. Maybe I am just hung up on that a lot and both can be true.

Assuming that protest is a color revolution and moving forward is still the best bet rather than being blind sided from it later on. Yet will still iterate the way the government shot it self so badly should be a case study on bad governance.

The take is similar to the communist party here. Only America and India has sufficient power to absolutely destroy Nepal and the fact that something like that happened should make it very very suspicious.

Just personally don't see why US would want to move against the government when their guy (Sher Bahadur Deuba) was guranteed to be prime minister after a year. Felt like the whole thing reduced their influence since they control the largest party here which suffered the most.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (16 children)

The actual project cited called "Yuva Netritwa: Paradarshi Niti” (Youth Leadership: Transparent Policy)" ran from July 2021 to June 2022 and selected some 60-70 people for training.

I mean if any other protest from then, and I mean there were a lot of protest, managed to overthrow the government then will it also automatically be a color revolution because NED money once flowed here few years ago?

My point is that the scale of the protest was too large to have only evidence being some report from 2022 running a training program. The most suspicious part for international audience might be the use of discord to elect the interim PM‌, which is a fair thing to be worry about, but the burning of Supreme Court and the Singha Durbar is even more suspicious event for us. guess is there was some internal conspiracy involving Nepal Army due to their inaction for most of the day.

not denying it couldn't possibly have been a color revolution but just haven't seen any credible evidence of US involvement. Also that NED training program might even be related to MCC since the timeline match more.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

yeah my position is the same. The thing was too big to be planned.

i will put the recent estimate here instead of separate comment since its not really news:

Official Estimated Damage in recent GenZ Protests: Total estimated Value: NRs. 84 Arba 45 Crores & 77 Lakhs (USD 583,636,244.79)

  • 2,671 Buildings
  • 12,659 Vehicles
  • Private Sector Estimate: 33 Arba 54 Crores 87 Lakhs (USD 231,834,839.05) Total estimated cost of reconstruction & repair of Buildings: ~36 Arba 30 Crores 21 Lakhs (USD 250,861,926.41)
[–] xarm@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

The best place to look for US aligned infiltrators is probably the new opposition parties that sprung up after the protest. The Gen Z Group which is also really suspicious have now little to no support due to in-fighting and pportunistic leadership.

Pretty sad that the best case (feel like most likely scenario) is going back to the status quo since most opposition feels very suspicious.

If it feels any better, the political parties here (socdem and communist ) do not support the interim government but it hasn't messed up anything to piss off general public yet.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Yeah am real Nepali, don't doubt US and NED flowing in Nepal at all but that protest in particular was due to government fuckup.

Now people trained to use such opportunity to rise and take lead used that opportunity to get into leadership position was inevitable.

Hell even member from some free-tibet org was nearly give a minister position in the interim government.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Me ? I don't post at all and even had to create account during the start of the protest to post since I lost my previous account to the domain shift.

I thought the protest was organic because the government killed a lot of children a day before and that protest was a reaction to it. But can totally see how a organized group can co-opt it by claiming to be Gen z's representive.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

'The miracle of mindfulness' by Thich Nhat Hanh is a good introduction to meditation and spirituality overall

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 57 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Nobel peace prize has been awarded to María Corina Machado, Venezuelan opposition leader.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Corina_Machado#2025_Nobel_Peace_Prize

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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by xarm@hexbear.net to c/politics@hexbear.net
 

Current situation of Gen-z movement

Context for the first Gen-z protest

The protests on 8th September were organized by different groups with similar demands. They wanted investigation of politician's financial matters might be related to the nepo baby trend. That gave rise to 'Anti-corruption' part of the protest which was organized by a NGO (maybe a real NGO, do not feel that shady for now) called Hami Nepal.

The government’s unilateral ban on all social media with no transparent process, objective and reason resulted in the youth’s (+12000) according to Nepal police. If not for there may not have been a blip in the radar (protesting was turning into a national pastime since nothing changes).

Why is it called the Gen-Z movement?

There was another Instagram page that promoted the anti-corruption protest called gen.znepal and that is where the name of the movement came from. I think the name (of the page) was inspired by a similar (color) revolution in surrounding countries.

Why I think this is not a color revolution

  • Nothing was planned on what to do after the government collapses.
  • Former government was influenced more by US and India (Do not think china cares much, even now)
  • There is currently a targeted attempt from Indian media to smear the movement as Pro-monarchy. related
  • Media has been weird about the movement (could be lack of news sources)
  • Government has been repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot and this time it did not survive
  • Representative (Sushila Karki) has been elected democratically (for what can be achieved in a day)
  • Movement is very wary of foreign influence instead of depending on their ‘expert opinions’
  • There is no formal leadership yet but everyone agrees with the current person since he has shown himself to be capable. (some shady stuff was spread about him by an Indian fact-checker but even i do not think it has to do with current situation)

Centralization of the leadership

  • the organizing group had been overwhelmed by the size of the movement to have any sort of control over it.
  • The movement adopted the name 'Gen z' since that was the targeted demographic. A lot of smaller groups were formed during and immediately after the protest. It has now been centralized into one unified front (Gen-Z Nepal).
  • The need for a unified front was forced upon the divided group by the army since different groups were approaching the Nepal Army to present their demand, as the movement’s representative. The Army was confused on what do to and asked the them to sort between themselves first.
  • The movement moved into Discord due to the existing server of 'gen.znepal' instagram page and ‘Hamro Nepal’ (which is called ‘Youth Against Corruption' for CIA reasons) . Also it was apparently a convenient place to talk.

How was our representative chosen (PM of the interim government) + images

  • The day after the government collapse, the Army asked for our official representative to the government.
  • The discussion took place in the discord server, which has grown to 130,000 members then (currently +150,000) . There were 7-10k members in the live voice-chat where different potential candidates were put forward and considered. Potential candidates were approached for their view and those that accepted to take the role were polled.
  • Many constitutional experts, Lawyers and other professionals were called in to give their opinions. Nepali people from all over the world came together to share their perspective.
  • The video call were also shared in tiktok, youtube, facebook with tens of thousands of people tuning it. (Thats how i found out about discord server)
  • After the Gen-Z group selected their representative (Former Chief Justice Sushila Karki), the rest of the country first scolded them for using discord of all places but then took their view very seriously. There was further talk about the chosen representative Sushila Karki’s action, position, affiliation and gave their approval and criticism. In the end she was selected to be the formal representative.
  • The reason for her such mass approval was due to her background in law (so will not get tangled in legal loopholes) , independence from political parties (Maoist and NC tried to remove her due to her decision on some high profile corruption charges), and her experience as the (first female) Chief Justice of Nepal. The final push came from the favored candidate "Balen Shah" declined our invitation and expressed his support for Sushila Kark.

Gen-Z movement Demand

Immediate Demand

  • Interim government under Sushila Karki (completed)
  • Dissolution of current parliament (completed)
  • Conducting next election - within 6/12 month

Further plan

  • focus on structural change instead of just reform ( maybe dismantling parliamentary system but nothing concrete has been decided upon)
  • forming a grass-root structure in the entire country (forming up local groups) for continuing pressure on the government (lesson from Bangladesh), social work, reconstruction and fighting the old parties’ influence. For that a committee is being formed in all levels since just being online is not enough.

Tldr; Conducting the next election is the responsibility of the youth now (dissolving the parliament and forming interim government being the first step), and communist groups should be preparing for the election now.

Few questions to Hexbear

  1. What makes you feel suspicious about the movement?
  2. What are the weak point of the movement and its structure?
  3. General strategy going forward?
  4. Role of communist group in this situation?

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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by xarm@hexbear.net to c/videos@hexbear.net
 

By some random tourist and also have a lot of fun doing it

 

related to this

There will probably be an interim government headed by a 'populist' leader who is currently the mayor of Kathmandu Municipality. At least thats what people are demanding. 'populist' in a sense like someone running in platform of change and improvement, not related to current establishment and is an independent candidate. and has done a lot of good so is very popular in the capital city.

The government's top brass has all been purged with no one left to take power. What should we focus on to prevent the same cycle of liberal governance -> move to right -> revolution once again?

There was no organization and leadership in the current protest, everything was spontaneous so felt like it would be an easy target for bad actors to take over the current momentum.

so any advice and recommendation of materials on moment after 'revolution' ? also the problem, limitation and enemies we face. Only the political leadership has been over-thrown but the ruling class still control the economic power. I guess only their investment in the political candidates are down the drain.

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