zbyte64

Clinton was notorious for polling people and changing positions, but that was not by referendum. Sometimes our pundits play loose with words and pretend polling is a referendum because we don't actually have referendums. See also "democratizing" when it just means "commodotizing"

Indeed. Democracy does not exclude anarchy and in the case of the UN it's a voluntary union, each member is free to not participate and ignore the decisions made by rest of the union. People often criticize the UN as having little authority - that's because it's anarchistic in nature.

If there is a point to my example it is that society is a patchwork of ideologies, there is no "pure capitalist" society just as there is no "pure anarchistic" society. So to say one ideology does not work as totalitarian society is different then saying it does not work at all.

I mean we have the UN which doesn't have any one nation in charge. Geopolitics tends to be anarchistic.

I think liberals doing trust exercises with marxists and others from different political leanings is the effective part.

Because we need even more parallels with Vietnam? I mean I kinda agree but for opposite reasons. The draft is how we got people breaking into the FBI offices and revealing cointelpro. Maybe a draft will motivate enough of us to liberated the rest of the Epstein files.

If you're writing off all liberals then your view makes sense. At our no kings the Brown Berets showed up to protect those you are spurning. Many years ago I attended a UFW march that was also protected by the Brown Berets and it shocked an out of town liberal white woman who compared the union march to the Nazis. These people tend to only see aesthetics so the march is a good opportunity to make unusual alliances. That's the concrete achievement of my local Marxist-lennist org, but that probably doesn't make sense to the terminally online.

What I find interesting is how we abstract away the actual work needed to keep either scenario running reflects how billionaires justify their own extremes. The heat death being a most extreme example as there is no "spare" energy for other organism to be conscious. The uploaded consciousness is detached from reality, living in a dieing universe, and still insists it has a right to exist at the cost of new venues of consciousness.

We can probably simulate a snail but me killing that wouldn't make my wife scream at me for killing a snail.

As one does when they lack a spine

I saw one of his heads which seemed to have a fatal wound, but his fatal wound was healed; and the entire earth followed after the beast in amazement.

What did the US say at the end of the war? Iran out of bombs.

Decorum is what they say publicly but let's be real, the results the Dems care about is campaign funding. They don't stand up to AIPAC or their extralegal operations because they're afraid of their money.