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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by SevenSkalls@hexbear.net to c/counterpropaganda@hexbear.net

North Korea wants to ban corn dogs because of western decadence or something?! That's horrible!

Let's check out the sources.

According to reports, Kim has banned North Koreans from eating hotdogs as part of a crackdown on Western culture slowly oozing its way into the hermit nation.

"Reports". Well, not super convincing so far...

According to Radio Free Asia (RFA), North Korea has also banned steamed rice cakes tteokbokki which is a popular street food in South Korea.

Oh hey, there we go, Radio Free Asia! What a great unbiased source/CIA front propaganda operation. Aren't they the same people who said something like everyone in NK has to have their leader's haircut? Or was forbidden to have his haircut? I think they said leather jackets were banned there once? Or that someone was executed for smuggling in Squid Game?

Food isn’t the only thing the hermit nation is cracking down on. Reports emerged in December that claim people who get divorced in North Korea are facing one to six months in labour camps for their “crimes”.

More "Reports".

According to RFA, a divorced woman claimed she served three months of labour and said that women receive harsher sentences than the men.

So ya, it's basically just RFA.

Beautiful.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by SevenSkalls@hexbear.net to c/counterpropaganda@hexbear.net

Someone in Lemmy.world is constantly posting pro-Milei propaganda, but I find it hard to believe this is the one time in the world Libertarian policies actually work after we've tried it before and it's backfired every time. Not sure if this is the right community, but I could use some counter propaganda help.

Can anyone explain what's happening in Argentina? Are things improving? Is he actually a secret genius? If not, why? If so, is it because of their economic policies or something else?

Some excerpts from the comments (seems to be two guys who love him in there) that sound convincing as someone who doesn't know enough about their economy:

After a 49% poverty left by the previous government. So a tick of 4% after that is almost nothing

People voted him for a reason

Argentina only has 32% inflation, what a success! Indeed, from 211% annual inflation to 107%? Astonishing success

It's 2.7% a month, which puts the inflation at 32%. And that's still the lowest it's been since 2021.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net to c/counterpropaganda@hexbear.net

"Now we just need to add a clause to the contract to exclude communists and we'll be good to go"

Apologies if this is the wrong comm, I'm a little confused with the changes still.

Collectivizing some takes from comrades for some counterpropaganda:

  • The paradox of tolerance is a semantic fallacy — tolerance = socially progressive, not pain tolerance: "smuglord Oh, you're a tolerant person? Tolerate this then! punches you in the face". To put it another way, tolerating other people (the bare minimum!) is different from tolerance for concepts. Parenti addresses this in The Culture Struggle:

The reason for respecting other cultures is to avoid doing harm to the people who live in them. But what if certain practices within the culture itself harm segments of the population? What claim, then, does the culture have to being above judgment? In South Africa, for instance, police are frequently dispatched to investigate muti killings, murders committed in order to present a traditional priest with a severed hand or genitals or heart so [gender] can cure a disease or bring some business gain to a supplicant. 51 South African authorities seem to have zero tolerance for this sacred aspect of indigenous culture. Presumably so would the murder victims had they been given a say in the matter.

  • The tolerance paradox only exists if you see tolerance as some logic puzzle rule and not a practical outcome for the lives of the marginalized. As this post pointed out, tolerating "all political parties" when some are openly trying to cause harm to others (e.g. actual Nazis) isn't more inclusive. Unlike actually marginalized groups, political views are, while also a product of your environment, at least something you have control over. In case you think this is just a point of theory, this has harmed trans people previously, for instance.

Consequently, the so-called "paradox of tolerance" can often ironically be used to argue for intolerance.

We don't need a society where all viewpoints are tolerated. Even well-intended ones often shouldn't be, as Mao famously put it:

Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn't that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?

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Thank you NBC. It's absolutely vital people know the military disposition of the countries a vlogger is being racist before we judge them.

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Link to tweet

Article on Literacy Tests.

Presented as a means for assessing whether voters were educated enough to vote, literacy tests and other methods were designed for a single purpose: to stop Black Americans from voting.

During the Reconstruction period that followed the war, enfranchised Black men gave Ulysses S. Grant his narrow victory in the popular vote. Before that period ended, 2,000 Black Americans would be elected to office in the South.

But by the dawn of the 20th century, all the progress that was made to expand the rights of formerly enslaved Black Americans was severely crippled by the institution of state-specific voting laws that were designed to exclude Black voters from the ballot box. Southern states created elaborate voter registration procedures or “voting literacy tests” that determined whether the voter in question was literate enough to cast their ballot.

Of course, these voting literacy tests were administered largely to voters of color and were scored by biased judges. The tests were intentionally confusing and difficult and one wrong answer meant a failing grade. Even Black voters with college degrees were given failing scores.

In the mid-1960s, a professor of law at Duke University, William W. Van Alstyne, conducted an experiment in which he submitted four questions found on the Alabama voter’s literacy test to “all professors currently teaching constitutional law in American law schools.”

Alstyne’s professors were told to answer all submitted questions without the aid of any external reference, just as any voter would be required to do when presented with the test. Ninety-six respondents sent Alstyne their answers; 70 percent of the answers given to him were incorrect.

As Alstyne had demonstrated, passing a voting literacy test was virtually impossible. The questions were intentionally written to confuse the reader, and one wrong answer would result in automatic failure.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by TheDoctor@hexbear.net to c/counterpropaganda@hexbear.net

Hey y’all did you know that Linux can’t count votes from multiple parties? I think I remember Torvalds talking about that somewhere.

michael-laugh

These people are using technobabble to justify disputing their gigantic loss rather than laying the blame at the feet of the people who actually lost.

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fair.org is a great resource and a necessary corrective to the mainstream media. They've been particularly good at documenting the lies and propaganda in the New York Times and Washington Post during the last few years:

Despite History of Fabrication, Press Uncritically Covers IDF-Provided Documents on Hamas

For NYT’s ‘Free Speech’ Maven, Racism Needs Protection, Gaza Protests Don’t

NYT Engages in Front-Page IDF ‘Womenwashing’

And so on. They're pretty essential. And they're not that different from what we might try to do in this comm.

From their freelance guidelines page (linked above):

A typical FAIR story focuses on US media coverage of a story currently in the news or an issue that receives perennial coverage, e.g., Afghanistan. We also occasionally cover news about the media—for example, layoffs of journalists, labor disputes or media mergers—and stories of activism that challenges media bias, censorship or policy.

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Freelancers receive $300 per article, paid within two weeks of publication. To help our message find the widest possible audience, we request that writers grant FAIR the right to approve republication of their articles; any proceeds from such reprints would belong to the writers. We also ask that you grant us the right to publish your piece in the Nexis media database. FAIR publishes under an Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0 Creative Commons license, which allows for published work to be copied, distributed, displayed and performed for noncommercial purposes if full attribution is given and no alterations are made to the work.

Submissions from BIPOC, women and LGBTQ writers are particularly encouraged.

Because of FAIR's history (they've been publishing since 1986) and reputation for accuracy, their articles are often the first thing I send to libs who realize that something is wrong with the coverage they're reading from other outlets. At the beginning of the Ukraine war I must have sent this one to everyone I know. Some people memory-holed it immediately, naturally, but this stuff often works on people who will read it in good faith.

Maybe this comm can be a space for practicing or collaborating on writing takedowns and correctives like this?

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net to c/counterpropaganda@hexbear.net

If you follow comrade @posting_forever on Twitter, she has been out there banging the drum about Treatlerism for a while. She says it has origins in Matt Christman's ideas on the role of treats in the imperial core.

I would define it as the open endorsement of imperial violence to ensure the continued flow of treats. This thread is a perfect exemplar of this attitude: https://xcancel.com/DrVirgo1981/status/1854527156589658382

It's not a new phenomenon, but as material conditions deteriorate, it will become a much more marked tendency

I have prepared a selection of its more disgusting replies for you below, but the whole thread is a bunch of Hitlers saying "exaaaaacctlllltyyyyyy" to each other.

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